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#28801: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:10:01 PM

Anybody seen any good fanfics recently? Because the Recs page for DB is an outdated mess.

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#28804: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:22:37 PM

...Incidentally, what if Piccolo hadn't blown up the spy robot and Krillin and Trunks hadn't blown up Gero's underground lab?

What if Present-Cell emerged around the Uub saga with cells from Supreme Kai, Dabura, Majin Buu, Vegito, Beerus, and/or Whis?

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#28805: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:24:35 PM

[up] Then they'd be screwed.

ROYALLY screwed.

Also, that'd kind of make the Buu saga not happen the way it happened.

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#28806: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:25:13 PM

This thread is divided up into talking about Power Levels, complaining about talking about Power Levels, complaining about characters getting shafted, female characters, and why Vegeta is better than Sasuke.

Oh, and us threatening to kill one another.

edited 19th Nov '15 1:25:47 PM by LOLypop1224

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#28807: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:26:08 PM

I mean, I don't know it'd affect the Buu Saga all that much. I think Cell still wouldn't quite be finished yet.

I get the impression that Future-Cell had basically just emerged around the time Future-Trunks got his time machine.

And present-Trunks isn't a teenager yet.

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#28808: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:27:57 PM

[up] Oh wait, I was thinking of the Cell we saw that Gohan killed...

Yeah, they'd just be royally fucked.

edited 19th Nov '15 1:28:19 PM by AdricDePsycho

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#28809: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:28:56 PM

Technically the Cell Gohan killed was basically Future-Future Cell.

Or Future Perfect Cell.

Pun intended.

Anyway. Aside from getting them the blueprints to 17, aborting Cell didn't actually accomplish much in the short-term.

edited 19th Nov '15 1:31:30 PM by unnoun

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#28810: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:32:40 PM

Well Present Cell would come out in his Imperfect form, which would be leagues stronger than the first Cell's Imperfect form.

Plus he'd still need to absorb Androids 17 and 18 (so now Krillin gets to do shit, since he has to defend his wife, and maybe the Androids can finally fight Cell together).

And maybe Gohan can finally get his damn Mystic powers again and fight Nu Cell to a draw.

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#28811: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:33:03 PM

What if Present-Cell emerged around the Uub saga with cells from Supreme Kai, Dabura, Majin Buu, Vegito, Beerus, and/or Whis?

Not sure if Majin Buu even has cells.

Plus he'd still need to absorb Androids 17 and 18 (so now Krillin gets to do shit, since he has to defend his wife, and maybe the Androids can finally fight Cell together).

"Krillin has to defend his wife."

Yeah, no. Krillin is the damsel of their relationship.

edited 19th Nov '15 1:34:58 PM by TobiasDrake

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#28812: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:35:30 PM

Not sure if Majin Buu even has cells.

He has internal parasites.

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#28813: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:35:54 PM

[up][up]But you know that's how this hypothetical scenario would play out.

Also, Buu might not have cells, but nothing about Cell makes sense in the first place, so they could probably BS incorporate some of his bubble gum without him noticing.

edited 19th Nov '15 1:36:16 PM by LSBK

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#28814: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:36:38 PM

[up][up][up]Well I mean it's not like he'd just sit back and let Lazuli get in a fight that she can't reasonably win and puts herself in extreme danger in .

edited 19th Nov '15 1:36:56 PM by SonOfSharknado

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#28815: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:38:01 PM

In any fight Lazuli can't reasonably win, Krillin "protecting" her will consist of five seconds of his head being casually exploded by an opponent who barely even cares that he exists. 18 is so far beyond Krillin that he is worse then useless in a fight alongside her, because his presence would mean she has to handicap herself trying to protect him.

edited 19th Nov '15 1:38:43 PM by TobiasDrake

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#28816: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:38:17 PM

[up][up]Does he have a choice in the matter? Or would he try to force her to stay back and get his arm broken for his trouble?

[up] I mean, I put end of Z Krillin at about first form Frieza. Roughly.

Near as I can tell, 18 is over 280 times that.

Like, 280 times that is the barest minimum.

edited 19th Nov '15 1:40:27 PM by unnoun

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#28817: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:40:23 PM

Yeah. And even that estimate is extremely generous to Krillin.

edited 19th Nov '15 1:40:32 PM by TobiasDrake

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#28818: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:42:17 PM

I think we can all agree her just standing back or hiding while he fights in vain would be terrible; that being said it's not exactly wrong for a spouse to want to protect their spouse regardless of gender.

It's sort of a moot point because in this scenario it's not like either of them would really be able to do anything.

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#28819: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:43:24 PM

I mean he'd try. It is his wife.

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#28820: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:44:12 PM

He'd probably try to hide her, first off. Probably try to find her brother as well, since he'd be targeted as well.

Then he gets killed like in GT, except by Cell instead of a brainwashed Android 17, and so Androids 17 and 18 have to fight Cell together since they have to protect their loved ones.

Then they get absorbed, but it was a damn awesome fight.

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#28821: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:44:56 PM

I think we can all agree her just standing back or hiding while he fights in vain would be terrible; that being said it's not exactly wrong for a spouse to want to protect their spouse regardless of gender.

It is when the person trying to help is less capable than the person they're insisting on helping. That is less than helpful because it keeps the other person from being able to do what they do to the best of their ability. Having Krillin on the battlefield would actively impair 18's ability to protect herself. She would die protecting him from getting stupidly killed by his terrible judgment.

Also, I just crunched unnoun's numbers and even 280x First Form Frieza is too small of a gap. It would result in a battle power of 148.4 million, slightly weaker than Super Saiyan Goku was when he fought Frieza on Namek.

By participating in the battle, Krillin can only hurt 18, never help. If he is compelled to try, then he will be the reason why she dies. He is the damsel of their relationship.

edited 19th Nov '15 1:47:04 PM by TobiasDrake

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#28822: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:50:26 PM

Also, I just crunched unnoun's numbers and even 280x First Form Frieza is too small of a gap. It would result in a battle power of 148.4 million, slightly weaker than Super Saiyan Goku was when he fought Frieza on Namek.

I mean, I don't have numbers for how strong Vegeta was when he fought 19 and 18, and I know 18 was stronger than him there, and I think it's implied that he was slightly stronger than Goku was at the time, and that Goku had been training for three years and was probably stronger than when he fought Freeza.

But, again, I have no numbers for any of that. The highest number I've got is Super Saiyan Goku on Namek.

The actual number I got by dividing 150,000,000 by 530,000 was 283.0188679, but I don't like decimals, and it's too many significant figures anyway.

edited 19th Nov '15 1:55:44 PM by unnoun

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#28823: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:50:37 PM

Are we still using the scenario of Nu Cell? Because I feel like I just started a flame war about a general scenario instead of Unnoun's specific idea.

Either way, they'd obviously have to hide 18 and 17. The two of them would be targeted by Cell, who would no doubt absorb whoever he crosses just to make himself stronger, but at the same time just giving him the Androids would lead to Cell becoming even more powerful (and he's already pretty damn powerful), which would lead to him more easily destroying the Earth, if not at least part of the solar system itself.

So damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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#28824: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:51:05 PM

Well, I wasn't really talking about being on a battlefield. Him being a hindrance there is a given.

edited 19th Nov '15 1:51:39 PM by LSBK

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#28825: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:53:57 PM

It's not like he wouldn't try, but he might call in the heavyweights like Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan. He might even ask Goku and Vegeta to try to become Vegetto again.

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