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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#28476: Nov 17th 2015 at 11:39:59 AM

Technically not, since Piccolo is also King Piccolo's son. Remember, he did spit Piccolo's egg out before dying, so the two technically existed at the same time.

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#28477: Nov 17th 2015 at 11:41:00 AM

Technically, Piccolo and Kami were also the same person when you think about it. wink

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#28478: Nov 17th 2015 at 11:43:56 AM

Not really. Our Piccolo and Piccolo Daimaou are one in the same. Here's what God has to say about him:

"Sorry to disappoint you.... but in the instant before he exploded, he left behind a shade of himself... a spore... a clone... dedicated to destroying you and conquering the world... with even more power stored within him than the original."

edited 17th Nov '15 11:44:18 AM by Zelenal

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#28479: Nov 17th 2015 at 11:47:21 AM

Yep. Piccolo even openly confesses to being Piccolo Daimao during the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai. They're the same guy.

If they weren't, we wouldn't have Dragon Balls. God would have died as soon as Daimao kicked the bucket.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#28480: Nov 17th 2015 at 11:49:17 AM

...King Piccolo and Piccolo are as much the same person as Kikyo and Kagome are.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#28481: Nov 17th 2015 at 11:49:59 AM

I mean, that same game also had Kid Buu in hell despite Uub.

...Or, wait, maybe that was another game.

Anyway. I mean, it's a plot point that, in the Saiyan Saga, Jr. was a little different from Daimao. It's why Goku actually saw King Yenma and didn't just end up in limbo.

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#28482: Nov 17th 2015 at 11:50:59 AM

Piccolo Jr. was as evil and pragmatic as his father when he was introduced. It's just that he got redeemed by Gohan. I think of it like Bibidi and Babidi.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#28483: Nov 17th 2015 at 11:54:14 AM

Piccolo killed Goku before he had spent any time with Gohan.

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#28484: Nov 17th 2015 at 11:55:51 AM

By Goku's admission, Piccolo Jr. was less evil than Daimao. This is not mutually exclusive with the fact that Piccolo Jr. was Piccolo Daimao reborn in a new body. Daimao's previous body had its moral compass ripped in half and all of his potential for Good personified in another Namekian.

As a consequence of being reborn to a new body, Piccolo Jr. is closer to a complete, functioning person than Daimao had been - the latter effectively being Evil Personified. Before his rebirth, it would not have been possible for Gohan to redeem Piccolo, because the parts of him capable of appreciating and becoming fond of Gohan were torn out and made into God.

edited 17th Nov '15 12:00:22 PM by TobiasDrake

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#28485: Nov 17th 2015 at 12:07:09 PM

Frankly I think it's weird that Yenma let a personification of evil pick their own reincarnation.

At least with Uub it was on Goku's request and Yenma likes Goku. Near as I can tell Daimao and Yenma have never interacted, and the people Daimao killed didn't get to go to the normal afterlife because reasons.

...Maybe that's why Yenma liked Daimao? Less paperwork?

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#28486: Nov 17th 2015 at 12:08:41 PM

Daimao didn't really die, did he?

He just put his spirit inside of the egg he spat out, right?

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#28487: Nov 17th 2015 at 12:08:51 PM

...the guy's in charge of literally every person who dies in the universe; a few hundred off his workload is not going to matter much.

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#28488: Nov 17th 2015 at 12:12:27 PM

[up][up] How does he know how to do that? It doesn't seem like it's something he'd have had much opportunity to practice.

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#28489: Nov 17th 2015 at 12:12:37 PM

There's also the little fact that the concept of the afterlife hadn't existed yet in the series :V

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#28490: Nov 17th 2015 at 12:13:10 PM

I don't think Yenma had any say in the matter. Daimao did it all himself. Chalk it up to supernatural powers over life and death granted by his status as the evil counterpart to God.

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#28491: Nov 17th 2015 at 12:18:09 PM

I think it was specifically said that the people Daimao and his demon kids killed got stuck in limbo instead of being able to move on.

So. That establishes that there is an afterlife of some sort.

...Also the thing Baba did with Grandpa Gohan. That too.

Anyway.

Part of me wonders why Daimao didn't decide to just die and stay dead as one last "fuck you" to Kami and the Earth. Make it so Shenron can't be brought back.

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#28492: Nov 17th 2015 at 12:24:35 PM

Because Evil is selfish. It'd be a nice spite move but how does it benefit him?

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#28493: Nov 17th 2015 at 12:26:48 PM

Because "Fuck you I'm going to kill you all."

Letting Goku kill him would be tantamount to accepting defeat.

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#28494: Nov 17th 2015 at 12:34:57 PM

Yeah, but spitting himself back up in an egg let's him come back and kill Goku at a future date.

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#28495: Nov 17th 2015 at 12:51:31 PM

Yeah but if he let himself die then there's no spitting up an egg.

I was replying to unnoun and agreeing with you.

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#28496: Nov 17th 2015 at 12:52:35 PM

Oh. <.< My bad.

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#28497: Nov 17th 2015 at 1:00:22 PM

In terms of the supporting cast...the humans have never been as relevant as people make them out to be. Even in Dragon Ball, Goku solos the main villains, and doesn't even need their help.

Piccolo finished his arc in Cell, Gohan...had his arc go backwards at the end of Buu, so he's just some nerd now without a proper character, and Goten and Trunks have potential for character growth, but it doesn't look like anyone wants to use them. I mean, they still haven't grown up.

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#28498: Nov 17th 2015 at 1:00:24 PM

@Yakuzu: You didn't but I wasn't replying to you, I was agreeing with you and replying to those who wished the side were important.

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#28499: Nov 17th 2015 at 1:04:59 PM

Past the first Tournament Goku also mostly travels alone and meets up with other like every three years or so.

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#28500: Nov 17th 2015 at 1:05:10 PM

It all ties into Dragon Ball's origins in Journey to the West. Sun Wukong is the badass of badasses and everyone else is useless.

And come on, Yamcha was always useless in most fights. He goes up against Tien and gets his legs broken, and he fights Hero and accidentally got hit in the balls. Yamcha's main service up to the Saiyan Saga was to be Worfed.

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