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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#28176: Nov 14th 2015 at 4:17:40 PM

[up][up]It probably would, since it went right through his tail. [nja]

Dragon Ball Multiverse shows that it would have had the consequence of not having Vegeta's help on Namek, though, leading to Frieza being victorious in the universe where it happened.

edited 14th Nov '15 4:18:21 PM by BaffleBlend

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#28177: Nov 14th 2015 at 4:18:05 PM

Just wondering about that. I mean, Goku, Krillin, and Roshi tanked bullets from Launch in the original Dragon Ball, and they were MUCH weaker than Vegeta was at that time.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#28178: Nov 14th 2015 at 4:18:14 PM

Multiverse is a fan comic.

[up] Bullets are affected by the laws of comic relief.

Same reason Mr. Satan is invincible against Buu. But not against bullets because it'd be more dramatic that way.

The universe of Dragon Ball is actually affected by narrative conventions. Thus Spake Toribot. Amen.

edited 14th Nov '15 4:19:40 PM by unnoun

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#28179: Nov 14th 2015 at 4:19:01 PM

[up]Yes. A flawed one at that. But that, at least, would have been a logical consequence of Krillin going through with it, I think.

edited 14th Nov '15 4:19:22 PM by BaffleBlend

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#28180: Nov 14th 2015 at 4:23:35 PM

To me, Vegeta's defining moments as a character outside of fights are this, this, this and, most importantly, this.

With honorable mention going to "it's over 9000" and "it's a Super Saiyan Bargain Sale".

These are the moments that, to me, if they don't encapsulate who Vegeta was, at least encapsulate who Vegeta had become by that point.

edited 14th Nov '15 4:46:02 PM by unnoun

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#28181: Nov 14th 2015 at 4:26:33 PM

Thing is, Vegeta does admit to being weaker than Goku, the revelation rattles him so badly he sells his soul. If it was just Vegeta saying "I'm stronger than Gohan" I'd write it off as hollow boasting but the drastic measure he takes gave me the impression he really had surpassed everything he thought there was to surpass.

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#28182: Nov 14th 2015 at 4:27:18 PM

You know, the funny thing is that that first one is edited together from two separate scenes.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#28183: Nov 14th 2015 at 4:35:19 PM

Frankly, I think Vegeta having an impotently whiny inner monologue at Goku when Goku's not even there makes it more funny, not less.

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#28184: Nov 14th 2015 at 4:37:23 PM

Indeed.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#28185: Nov 14th 2015 at 4:38:52 PM

I mean, there's some humor value at the idea of Vegeta just taking Goku's word for it, but.

Either way it's hilarious as shit.

EDIT: W Ait, what.

I just saw something.

...Vegeta apologized for something?

...To Gohan?

Whaaaaa

EDIT: I keep finding Vegeta clips. From things I haven't seen in ages. I honestly forgot about him kneeing Goku in the dick.

That's something I think would stand out.

So is it me or does this scene prove that Goku is more evil than Vegeta?

Because Vegeta needs help to not give a fuck about his family. For Goku it comes naturally. tongue

edited 14th Nov '15 5:03:13 PM by unnoun

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#28186: Nov 14th 2015 at 5:20:20 PM

You're kidding right? This scene is just after Vegeta murdered hundreds of people, almost catching his own wife in one of the blasts to force Goku's hand. Hell, when Radditz wanted to force Goku's hand all he did was kidnap his son. Vegeta is, as someone else phrased it, the most pointlessly evil saiyan we have ever seen.

Hell, when Vegeta was deemed "good" by Porunga later he still tried to destroy 99% of Earth's population just to make sure his miscalculated plan would work. Why do people try to whitewash Vegeta of all characters? You were joking right?

edited 14th Nov '15 5:20:58 PM by IndirectActiveTransport

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#28187: Nov 14th 2015 at 5:22:37 PM

Because, by the end of the series, he's a good person. He may be rough around the edges in a sense, but he's still a good person, way better than he once was at the beginning of the series.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#28188: Nov 14th 2015 at 5:23:47 PM

It was a "Goku is a bad dad/husband" joke.

And, I mean. Almost blowing up Bulma was after he got Babadi's help. The help he got because he wanted to not care about Bulma and Trunks. So the context of that is screwy. Like, yeah, things Vegeta does after he gets help don't quite work for proving that Vegeta is really bad even without help.

Like, if I were to explain the joke, the logic is that Vegeta wanted Babadi to awaken the evil in his heart, so he wouldn't care. Goku doesn't care, therefore he's already evil.

Except I think Goku does care, and don't actually think Goku is that bad a husband or father, I was just making a joke.

edited 14th Nov '15 5:27:58 PM by unnoun

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#28189: Nov 14th 2015 at 5:28:44 PM

Except that he explicitly states that he's free of Babidi's control.

edited 14th Nov '15 5:30:00 PM by Piando

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#28190: Nov 14th 2015 at 5:29:22 PM

[up][up] "WHY DO I LIKE THESE PEOPLE!?!? MAKE IT STOP!"

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#28191: Nov 14th 2015 at 5:29:56 PM

[up][up] He had the "M" thing on his face.

And that he needs Babidi's help to awaken the evil in his heart.

edited 14th Nov '15 5:30:48 PM by unnoun

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#28192: Nov 14th 2015 at 5:30:02 PM

Sorry for ruining your joke then. Part of it might be me not caring for Vegeta to the point I don't see humor where I should.

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#28193: Nov 14th 2015 at 5:34:39 PM

I have something to admit: I can't stand Bruce Falconer's score for DBZ. It sounds like a bunch of dumb 80s synthesizers with terrible electric guitars whining in the background. Seriously, people like this stuff? I mean, if you do, I don't judge, but good lord does it sound so...80s.

That is unacceptable. How dare you not like something that I like? Now I have to impose this upon you. Like it. Liiiike it.

edited 14th Nov '15 5:35:34 PM by Soble

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#28194: Nov 14th 2015 at 5:34:39 PM

"That's why I needed Babidi to set me free, by releasing the evil in my heart."

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#28195: Nov 14th 2015 at 5:38:54 PM

they never considered bashing Vegeta's head with a rock.

I mean, look at Goku.

Then look at Gohan, who effectively bashed his 8-year old skull into Raditz's special beam canon-tanking abs. Gohan turned out even more peaceful than Goku.

Goten, unlike Gohan or Goku, is almost entirely motivated by candy, toys, and    Vengeance   .

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#28196: Nov 14th 2015 at 5:42:21 PM

Goten was born while Chichi was mountain climbing and his skull hit every singly cliff on the way down.

...Except, wait, umbilical cord.

So, actually he swung and kept bumping into the same one.

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#28198: Nov 14th 2015 at 5:47:25 PM

@Bacon Mania 5000: Aww! Yay! I have been noticed by senpai! And I wasn't even trying! That's so awesome.

Anyway, there's some good news and bad news about Super from this week's episode. The good news is it looks like we'll see how they get SSB. The bad news is we probably won't see Freeza's training.

This week was pretty much a complete remake of the beginning of RF. But at least it was done quickly.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#28199: Nov 14th 2015 at 5:47:46 PM

That's just... so much better.

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#28200: Nov 14th 2015 at 5:50:43 PM

For everyone's comparison, Vegeta turning Super Saiyan in the original FUNi dub, Kai, and DBZA. Personally, I hate Vegeta's voice in the original FUNi dub even if his theme is awesome.

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