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#27926: Nov 11th 2015 at 1:51:41 PM

It was stupid to have him turn back into a kid, but that's honestly the least idiotic thing about GT.

The most idiotic being GT having so many good plot opportunities and fucking them up. A Tuffle bio-weapon, the return of Dr. Gero and Android 17, some negative karma for using the Dragon Balls so many damn times, Omega Shenron, grown up Trunks and Goten, Pan, Marron, and Bra now being older, et friggin' cetera.

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#27927: Nov 11th 2015 at 1:56:06 PM

Turning Goku into a kid was BS from the start, really.

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#27928: Nov 11th 2015 at 2:11:44 PM

[up] They should've just used Goten.

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#27929: Nov 11th 2015 at 2:15:41 PM

They couldn't use Goten because then he wouldn't be Goku.

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#27930: Nov 11th 2015 at 2:17:18 PM

Fuck it, just use Pan. Have Goku all set to go on this space-trip to get back the Dragon Balls because Pilaf used them for something and then Pan's just like "Stealin' yo rocket!" and flies off with Goten and Trunks and grumpy old man Piccolo.

And Bra and Uub I guess.

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#27931: Nov 11th 2015 at 2:37:54 PM

But then Goku wouldn't be the main character, and Goku's the most popular of everyone in Dragon Ball.

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#27932: Nov 11th 2015 at 2:39:16 PM

It is exceedingly easy to make a Next Generation team to go into space.

Uub, Goten, Trunks, Pan and Bra. You've got the original hero's disciple and the hero and his rival's descendants. You can even throw in Piccolo as a mentor and trainer, going along with them as a favor to Gohan so he can look after his kid. You can even justify Goku deciding not to accompany them by having Goku justify it to the others by saying something like it being a good test for Uub 'n shit.

You can even have Uub still be the main hero without writing off Gotenks entirely. Just have Goten and Trunks be so out of practice that they can't go SSJ 3 anymore and boom, they're now significantly weaker than what Uub should be.

And as for Pan and Bra... yeah, they're young, but Pan clearly had an interest in martial arts in the epilogue, and Bra could easily be written as a daddy's girl who wants her father to be proud of her and as such chooses the path of the fighter, which means she can easily be written as having trained enough to actually be a competent fighter.

And it's not like Pan and Bra couldn't learn how to fuse, themselves, so even in the case of Gotenks and Uub tier enemies, they still don't need to be obsoleted by the plot.

edited 11th Nov '15 2:40:05 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#27933: Nov 11th 2015 at 2:44:04 PM

You can even have Bra be a second Bulma and manage the tech instead of fighting.

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#27934: Nov 11th 2015 at 2:47:47 PM

Hell, you could have it so that Trunks and Goten can't fuse anymore because Trunks is out of practice because he's being groomed to run Capsule Corp. He hasn't had time to train and Goten's still training a lot with his dad, so he's gotten stronger while Trunks has gotten weaker.

Trunks could be the tech guy.

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#27935: Nov 11th 2015 at 2:49:12 PM

I would do it the other way, with Goten slacking in his training because he wanted to pursue other interests after becoming a teenager. He's what Kame-senning put so much effort into keeping Goku from becoming: he reached a point where he was better than nearly everyone else in existence and one of the most powerful beings in the entire universe at such an early age that he didn't feel any real compulsion to keep trying.

Trunks, on the other hand, is Vegeta's son. He doesn't have the luxury of falling behind and, unlike Goten, his father is always around to push him and train him rather than flying off to go train some kid he met at a tournament.

I like the suggestion of Bra as the techie taking ofter her mom. Goten could be the diplomat. The people person.

edited 11th Nov '15 2:51:42 PM by TobiasDrake

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#27936: Nov 11th 2015 at 2:51:27 PM

I'd rather just have Pan, Uub, Bra, and Guitar- Piccolo's kid which he had because why not? Goten and Trunks can still do stuff but I'd rather they not be in the main cast.

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#27937: Nov 11th 2015 at 3:01:02 PM

[up] I think Trunks and Goten need to be in it because they have enough popularity to draw people back in.

You leave those two out and well it would look skippable.

edited 11th Nov '15 3:01:24 PM by MadSkillz

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#27938: Nov 11th 2015 at 3:01:03 PM

Nothing says Bra couldn't both fight and be the tech nerd at the same time.

But yeah, I'm more fond of the idea of Trunks falling behind because he's now more of a tech nerd than a fighter, Goten slacking off because Goku's children are his greatest shame and the girls being the real next generation of Goku and Vegeta.

Just to stick it to the casual sexism that permeates manga.

As for why Vegeta didn't force Trunks to train: Bra was actually willing to train, so he focused on her. Also gives you an in for a subplot where Trunks has Daddy Issues and problems with Bra because she's clearly their father's favorite.

Goten has the same 'issues' to angst about, but he don't care, because Goten is Goten, and Goten don't give a fuck.

edited 11th Nov '15 3:03:56 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#27939: Nov 11th 2015 at 3:02:03 PM

What about Marron?

Come on, why waste the daughter of Krillin and Android 18?

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#27940: Nov 11th 2015 at 3:04:05 PM

Because robot parts aren't hereditary.

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#27941: Nov 11th 2015 at 3:06:01 PM

[up] Yeah, but she's not a goddamn background character, damn it!

Have her be the comic relief or something, like her dad. Hell, have her and Pan develop from rivals into the closest of friends together.

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#27942: Nov 11th 2015 at 3:06:25 PM

Uub is already there to represent humans.

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#27943: Nov 11th 2015 at 3:07:18 PM

[up] Doesn't he have at least some Majin powers or something?

I forgot most of what he could do in GT.

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#27944: Nov 11th 2015 at 3:08:16 PM

'Cause unlike the others, she's a perfectly normal human with no great potential to speak of.

Yes, she's the daughter of the strongest human of all time and the strongest woman on Earth, but she's not an android like her mother and even if she inherited all of Krillin's strength... she's still well below the Saiyans' base strength, and that's just 1% of those Saiyans' potential strength, possibly 0.25% if they achieve SSJ 3, even less accounting for fusion.

At best you could have her be the team's nurse.

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#27945: Nov 11th 2015 at 3:09:01 PM

I do like the idea of Marron being along to represent what humans who are not reincarnated from an eldritch horror can do - Uub barely qualifies as a representative of humans - but I'm just not sure how you would make her useful.

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#27946: Nov 11th 2015 at 3:09:47 PM

Only after fusing with Mr. Buu, which I would like to avoid. One Human, two Human-Saiyan hybrids, and a Namekian sounds like a good core cast to me.

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#27947: Nov 11th 2015 at 3:10:34 PM

I prefer the idea of Bra being a fighter and Trunks the tech-girlguy. I'd like it better if they averted Generation Xerox to an extent.

edited 11th Nov '15 3:11:09 PM by 32ndfreeze

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#27948: Nov 11th 2015 at 3:10:48 PM

[up][up][up] Well a nurse sounds really good.

Why not make her the Bulma type character?

edited 11th Nov '15 3:10:57 PM by AdricDePsycho

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#27949: Nov 11th 2015 at 3:15:10 PM

Only after fusing with Mr. Buu, which I would like to avoid. One Human, two Human-Saiyan hybrids, and a Namekian sounds like a good core cast to me.

No, even before fusing with Mr. Buu, he's still the reincarnation of Pure Buu. The only reason Uub has any power to speak of is because he's Pure Buu reborn from Goku's plea.

He is less of an example of humanity's potential than even the Androids are because at least their technology was made with human hands. Uub is human In Name Only.

edited 11th Nov '15 3:15:52 PM by TobiasDrake

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#27950: Nov 11th 2015 at 3:18:32 PM

Just because his soul is strong doesn't make him not Human. He still grew up in the Dragon Earth's version of India, he's still 100% Human genetically, he still doesn't have the same Buu powers or regeneration Buu does. Uub is completely Human, just with a strong soul.

edited 11th Nov '15 3:21:01 PM by PushoverMediaCritic


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