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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#26826: Oct 23rd 2015 at 8:19:12 PM

So basically she's boring and wants her husband to conform to her way of life with no consideration for his wants. Such a loving couple.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#26827: Oct 23rd 2015 at 8:20:00 PM

She's been married to Goku for like twenty years. He's come back from the dead. He's an alien. The other alien who kidnapped her firstborn alien hybrid son is a regular guest in their house. You think she'd accept the fact that nothing, literally nothing about Goku will ever be normal.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#26828: Oct 23rd 2015 at 8:23:59 PM

But then it wouldn't be funny....to someone making the show.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#26829: Oct 23rd 2015 at 8:24:20 PM

I think it's less her being unwilling to accept abnormality in her life and more her fighting tooth and nail to get every bit of normalicy she can get.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#26830: Oct 23rd 2015 at 10:07:16 PM

Although using a tractor takes less effort than using your bare hands. Even if it's Goku.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26831: Oct 23rd 2015 at 10:08:58 PM

He'd be done a lot quicker and I can't image doing that would tire him at all.

edited 23rd Oct '15 10:09:57 PM by LSBK

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#26832: Oct 23rd 2015 at 10:13:45 PM

Goku plowed a field in a few hours when he was twelve. He is now a magnitude of power higher so great that I can't easily write it without using scientific notation. It would take him... five minutes. To plow all the farmland on the earth

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#26833: Oct 23rd 2015 at 10:31:32 PM

And that's with him taking a four minute nap break.

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Piando 18's Glomp OF DOOM Since: Jun, 2015
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#26834: Oct 24th 2015 at 2:54:10 AM

Still funny when she dominates Piccolo like a mule. If it wasn't for chichi we wouldn't have the goriest death in the series, and one of the best filler scenes.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#26835: Oct 24th 2015 at 4:26:33 AM

@Lolypop Adding onto this, before Toriyama introduced Super Saiyan 3 Goku outright refers to Super Saiyan 2 as his full power.

In fact, when Vegeta goes Majin, Goku decides to "settle this at full power" and turns Super Saiyan 2 straight away, but Vegeta just responds by also becoming a Super Saiyan 2. This surprises Goku. So... originally he wasn't going to bother with the "stick to the same form for a good fight" bullshit and just wanted to flatten Vegeta by out-transforming him.

So saying he held back Super Saiyan 3 for a good fight doesn't really work, since even with that retcon it doesn't change that Super Saiyan 2 Goku was prepared to fight Super Saiyan Vegeta. The best in-universe answer is that he felt it was too great a risk, I suppose.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#26836: Oct 24th 2015 at 5:54:59 AM

I like to think that Goku didn't go Super Saiyan 3 after seeing Vegeta transform into Super Saiyan 2 because he knew Vegeta would be able to take the beating until Goku lost too much of his time on Earth with the transformation. Because, if nothing else, Vegeta can tank like a motherfucker.

Yes, I know it's really because Toriyama hadn't come up with SSJ 3 yet, but headcanon be headcanon, yo.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#26837: Oct 24th 2015 at 7:43:51 AM

Actually, that's not so crazy considering the beatings Vegeta has taken.

Hell, he survived fighting Pure Buu, who's about equal with SSJ 3, so it's possible that's not so crazy.....

Even if Goku beat the literal stuffing out of Vegeta, the latter would likely still keep getting back up because he wouldn't be able to accept that he lost......

Except SSJ 3 Goku would just be able to Instant Transmission himself to where Gohan is after pummelling Vegeta enough, and he had two Senzu beans, so he could heal his body if he needed to.

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#26838: Oct 24th 2015 at 7:51:36 AM

Goku spends most of the Boo arc doing his best to avoid resolving the situation himself. He only steps up when every other option they had fails spectacularly. Him lying about using full power when he still has a whole additional level up his sleeve is totally in line with that.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#26839: Oct 24th 2015 at 8:17:41 AM

except for that part where he tried to resolve the Vegeta problem by using what he THOUGHT was an extra level up his sleeve

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#26840: Oct 24th 2015 at 8:26:14 AM

Super Saiyan 3 does look like a retcon after all.

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#26841: Oct 24th 2015 at 11:16:42 AM

A retcon Toriyama tried to justify by stating it would eat up his time on Earth.

And on the subject of redesigns, I like the being of almost pure energy take of SS3. My only problem with it is that it doesn't look like a progression from super saiyan two.

And my point was Kamehameha itself is a Repetitive Name, one that's been used throughout the series nonstop since it's induction. Complaining about Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan in that regard seems silly, especially since it's also blue.

Yes, Kamehameha is a real word but that also ties into my point. It's Hawaiian, which does that kind of thing and Japanese itself tends toward that kind of repetition that is much rarer in English. It's the kind of thing that makes works that originally were not written in English novel.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#26842: Oct 24th 2015 at 11:23:51 AM

I don't know how Kamehameha is written, but the 'kame' almost certainly refers to the word for turtle. So saying that it's named for that Hawaiian king seems to be making assumptions to me.

edited 24th Oct '15 11:24:27 AM by Arha

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#26843: Oct 24th 2015 at 11:28:26 AM

"Kamehameha" is the name of a Hawaiian king, and it's also pronounced the same as the Japanese for "Turtle Destruction Wave." It's a double pun.

edited 24th Oct '15 12:04:25 PM by HamburgerTime

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#26844: Oct 24th 2015 at 11:54:30 AM

Imagine if the series had translated Kamehameha as Turtle Destruction Wave the entire series.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#26845: Oct 24th 2015 at 12:02:38 PM

The Kamehameha is written as かめはめ波.

I'm actually fairly certain that the relation to Hawaiian king is unintentional. If that was to be the case, it would have likely been written as カメハメハ.

EDIT: I take that back. Toriyama's wife came up with the name and it WAS from the Hawaiian king. Scroll down to "Training".

Also, Toriyama drug out the Namek Saga specifically for Goku VS Recoome and he gave Super Saiyan Goku blonde hair in order to save his assistant some time,.

edited 24th Oct '15 12:09:40 PM by Zelenal

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#26846: Oct 24th 2015 at 12:41:59 PM

While kinda funny and all, it's odd that he dragged it out just for a fight that wasn't even a fight.

I mean, Goku going around Recoome like he was nothing, and then one shotting him definitely showed that the latter had powered up a lot, but I wonder if once again, he didn't totally think things through.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#26847: Oct 24th 2015 at 12:50:01 PM

Kamehameha was chosen because it was punny.

Anyway, you can't call the name of a technique repetitive. That's dumb.

Of course it's gonna be repeated every time the technique is used.

What you should call repetitive is how much it's used, not its name. It's not like, in-universe, there's a gazillion variations of the Kamehameha, there's one and people just use it in different ways. It's only the games that have lots of variations on it.

By the by, I still think my favorite variation on the Kamehameha was the one used by SSJ 3 Goku in Dragon Ball Legends, you know, the giant one. It's just so gloriously over the top.

(Also, how come Ultimate Battle 22 made it out of Japan, but not Legends? The fuck?)

And yes, this was a stretch made just to whine about not getting Legends when I was a kid.

edited 24th Oct '15 12:54:24 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#26848: Oct 24th 2015 at 12:54:47 PM

For that game, there were also differences between the Play Station and Sega Saturn versions. How the attacks looked and what attacks were used.

Like, Nappa's move in the PS version was his Giant Storm move, while in the Sega Saturn version it was him making a Saibaman and having it blow up on you.

edited 24th Oct '15 1:00:08 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#26849: Oct 24th 2015 at 2:52:48 PM

"Kamehame" is not that repetitive a name, it's a pretty short repetition, and not a full one at that. I suppose the transformation equivalent would be "Super Saiyan God Huper Haiyan" tongue

[up][up]Is Legends the one that came out on the Saturn? It did come out of Japan... to Europe, in French.

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#26850: Oct 24th 2015 at 3:49:57 PM

Repetitive in that name uses the same syllable twice, not in how many times it is said. Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan uses state in place of syllable but even though it's longer it's the same level of repetition.

syllable+meha-meha isn't much different than Super Saiyan-word-Super Saiyan. If you're using the Japanese meaning over the original Hawaiian that's even less justification for differentiating them because then Kamehameha's syllables are also words in their own right jammed together. If it's too long to type out then use the abbreviation. Kamehameha SSGSS is still a proportionally even amount of repetition. I suppose this does answer my question, I am the only person on this thread who likes Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. It also gives a nice air of finality. A hint that we're really done with transformation for the time being. Goku's reached two in a row and it's still not enough to surpass Beerus, let alone the entities implied to be stronger than him throughout the various regions of time and space, definitely not the little guy sitting in plain sight outright stated to be stronger. And with that seemingly established it makes me wonder what gimmicks they will be falling back on next.

Five on five competition is a nice way to go, one I certainly didn't see coming, not at this point. I figured we'd get a good deal more world building before a high profile but structured contest took place.

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