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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#26701: Oct 21st 2015 at 4:21:48 PM

[up][up] Yes, I certainly could have done that but the game just didn't grab me. It's not bad, not by any stretch of the imagination. The controls are easy, fluid, and responsive. The combo system is easy enough to understand but there's probably a hell of a lot you can do with it. The characters, what few there are in the demo, are all quite different. The Assists are also a neat feature, even if I didn't really use them.

The game just didn't grab my interest, is all.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#26702: Oct 21st 2015 at 4:34:36 PM

[up][up] Yakon probably ate him, like he ate those henchmen.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#26703: Oct 21st 2015 at 4:39:44 PM

The henchmen are anime-only. Manga Babidi's crew, if I remember right, was only himself, Pocus, Dabura, and this mystery person. Yamu and Spopovich were just recruited to have peons that were from Earth and too weak to draw attention gathering energy.

edited 21st Oct '15 4:55:36 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#26704: Oct 21st 2015 at 4:47:18 PM

At least one other henchmen is shown in the manga, and the diagram of Babidi's ship shows quite a few warrior quarters.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#26706: Oct 21st 2015 at 4:55:00 PM

[up][up]Really? Huh.

[up]Yes I did.

edited 21st Oct '15 4:56:04 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#26707: Oct 21st 2015 at 4:55:33 PM

Yakon is the Green monsterman.

My various fanfics.
LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#26708: Oct 21st 2015 at 8:18:33 PM

It's so weird. The manga has a full-on detailed diagram of the ship's interior. Like this was going to be a big portion of the story, before Toriyama just decided to screw it and make all the antagonists pathetically weak compared to them.

It honestly would have been a great way to build up to Majin Buu. Although you could argue it would have been a repeat of the Ginyu Force segments.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#26709: Oct 21st 2015 at 8:19:47 PM

[up] I think the bad guys, minus Dabura, being so weak was the point. The Z-Fighters have grown complacent and it shows.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#26710: Oct 21st 2015 at 8:26:38 PM

Well, not Goku and Vegeta.

They both got stronger, and the former was fucking dead.

Though I guess considering what he did, Vegeta did think he grew complacent.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#26711: Oct 21st 2015 at 8:36:45 PM

They did grow complacent; Vegeta was so confident in their superiority that he thought Buu would have been just as weak as the rest of Babidi's men.

And...let's be fair, there was some justification to it; at that point, the saiyans were literally stronger than the highest ranked gods. Even Gohan, who was significantly rusty and weaker than he was seven years prior, was still vastly stronger than the Supreme Kai and was at worst, even with Dabura even if his fighting was sloppy.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#26712: Oct 21st 2015 at 9:12:34 PM

I wouldn't say vastly stronger: the two combat feats East Kaioshin does have, restraining Gohan with telekinesis and surviving three hits from Madjinn (just my Fan Nickname, I have the right to use it) Buu compared to two on Gohan, imply that East Kaioshin is at least in the same ballpark as Gohan, albeit weaker.

edited 21st Oct '15 9:13:09 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#26713: Oct 21st 2015 at 9:13:57 PM

I doubt that.

He wouldn't have been scared shitless of Dabura if he was in the same ballpark as Gohan.

I peg him as being around the same level of Perfect Cell (pre self-destruction).

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#26714: Oct 21st 2015 at 9:17:36 PM

I have East Kaioshin a tiny bit higher but that's what I think too, remember: Super Saiyan 2 is only a 2x multiplier on top of 1; it's a small ballpark.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#26715: Oct 22nd 2015 at 3:15:05 AM

If the Supreme Kai were on Cell's ballpark, he wouldn't be scared shitless of Dabura.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#26716: Oct 22nd 2015 at 3:21:19 AM

The DBH website is gonna be digitally uploading all the chapters of the DBH manga.

It's gonna do a chapter a day, and once it hits chapter 28, they're gonna release the next chapter, just in time for the anniversary!

Also, they're gonna release a book called Dragon Ball Heroes 5th Anniversary Mission, which is where chapter 29 will be.

edited 22nd Oct '15 3:24:01 AM by Rinsankajugin

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#26717: Oct 22nd 2015 at 3:23:05 AM

Or Pui-Pui for that matter.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#26718: Oct 22nd 2015 at 3:34:06 AM

I mean, he's probably stronger than Android 17 because Piccolo is scared shitless of him.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#26719: Oct 22nd 2015 at 3:36:59 AM

And both Piccolo and guidebooks say Kaioshin is stronger.

Also he's not scared of Pui Pui, he's scared of how casual the Saiyans are being. But that's because what he's sensing from them is their suppressed power, and when Vegeta actually fights he shows more power and casually demolishes Pui Pui. Kaioshin notes as much.

I've said it before, from Kaioshin's perspective he was running an Escort Mission where the AI wouldn't listen to him and them getting hurt meant his failure. He just didn't know the Saiyans had the stats to solo it.

edited 22nd Oct '15 3:37:31 AM by Saiga

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#26720: Oct 22nd 2015 at 6:31:20 AM

Its funny how before Buu showed up, the arc was kind of lampshading how absurd the power gap the Saiyans had achieved. They were all treating it like a sparring match than a fight for the universe.

edited 22nd Oct '15 6:31:41 AM by BlackYakuzu94

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#26721: Oct 22nd 2015 at 7:40:56 AM

Yeah. It was a Bait-and-Switch not only for the characters but for any audience members who, like them, was chuckling and going, "Yeah, the Super Saiyans are super badass, these guys are a joke. They can handle anything that's thrown at them."

edited 22nd Oct '15 7:41:07 AM by TobiasDrake

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#26722: Oct 22nd 2015 at 7:47:52 AM

That is true.

And yet, Goku and Vegeta would make the same mistake again when fighting Frieza.....

Although that's not why things went bad, no matter what the plot tries to say.

Goku suddenly being susceptible to a simple laser is bullshit (and they didn't even try to justify why it worked on him), and Vegeta was trying to kill Frieza, but the latter managed to Ass Pull a Rage Quit seconds before Vegeta finished him.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#26723: Oct 22nd 2015 at 7:54:50 AM

Funny thing is, the only thing that prevented those expectations from being true, is Goku refusing to destroy Buu right from the start. The arc would be a lot shorter that way and people would probably joke about Goku skipping all the mid arc training and going straight to destroying the villain with a new Super Sayian level.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#26724: Oct 22nd 2015 at 8:18:30 AM

Yeah.

Though in hindsight, he might have used up all his time before he got that opportunity.

It's hard to say. Buu's incredible regenerative abilities might have surpassed Goku's ability to destroy him even if Super Saiyan 3 did make him stronger.....

And I just had a thought.

We know Kid Buu just utterly wrecked the Supreme Kais / Kaioushins right?

But in the manga, we only ever see his fight with South Supreme Kai, who seemed to be his equal until the Buu cheated and absorbed him.

We know that Buu is damed tough in all his forms, being able to take a lot of punishment even from stronger foes, having ridiculous stamina, and just all around being tough.

Since we never get any power levels from characters during the course of the series, are we sure that Buu was that much stronger than the Kais? What if he was only a little bit more powerful then them, but his stamina and regeneration meant he was able to outlast them until they were too weak to really fight back?

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#26725: Oct 22nd 2015 at 8:25:59 AM

Well we do know that none of them were as strong as Super Sayian Teen Gohan, and that's far off from Boo league.


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