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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#26501: Oct 18th 2015 at 11:37:48 AM

[up][up] That would be fine and dandy is she hasn't explicitly stated that she doesn't care about the world.

[up][up][up] Yes, it's totally Goku's fault that a brother he never knew about came out of nowhere to kidnap his son. It's also totally his fault that he died in the process of not only rescuing him but also saving the Earth. I mean, there were totally fifty other ways they could have defeated Raditz.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#26502: Oct 18th 2015 at 11:40:22 AM

^ Building on that, what canon characterization does she have that actually makes her look better than that?

Well, there's probably something. Like Chichi as a little girl? And maybe something else that didn't stand out at all.

Oh, right, she slapped Buu.

edited 18th Oct '15 11:43:31 AM by Arha

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#26503: Oct 18th 2015 at 11:47:55 AM

To be fair, slapping Buu isn't any less stupid than when Bulma slapped Beerus.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#26504: Oct 18th 2015 at 11:48:40 AM

[up][up][up]Oh, so we're just supposed to take everything the characters say at face value without compensating for sarcasm or hyperbole? So I guess Yamcha IS one of the strongest guys around. Chi-chi obviously cares about the world, she was saying that to express that Gohan a child scholar has no place on a dangerous battlefield. This all could've been avoided if Goku had just told Chi-chi how strong Gohan was.

edited 18th Oct '15 11:49:12 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26505: Oct 18th 2015 at 11:51:31 AM

@Pushover, she can comprehend it by actually seeing him in action, but that's not something she actually has any interest in doing.

And it would be one thing if she just expected Goku to get hurt but that's not the same thing as blatantly ignoring how injured he is and not showing any concern. That is not something a spouse does, not matter how confident they are in their partner.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#26506: Oct 18th 2015 at 11:53:23 AM

Yamcha is one of the strongest guys around. Sure, he's nothing compared to the Saiyans, Piccolo, Lazuli, Krillin, and Tenshinhan but that leaves the millions or billions of other people on the planet that he's vastly stronger than.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#26507: Oct 18th 2015 at 12:06:01 PM

[up][up]It is one mistake. One mistake that she was called out on. Why focus on it? There are plenty of other times where she shows that she loves and cares for Goku.

edited 18th Oct '15 12:06:49 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26508: Oct 18th 2015 at 12:13:02 PM

[up]Who's focusing on it? I'm pointing out why you were wrong about the incident and now I'm also pointing out that she never conceded or implied that her treatment was anything but right. Getting called out on it didn't make her change or her actions or opinion on that matter.

But the fact of the matter is that Gohan is not a normal kid, there were legitimate reasons for him to undertake the things he did, some of which weren't even Goku's fault, and the only reason she didn't realize that was because she didn't want to.

That Chichi's feelings are understandable and in the real world totally justifiable, doesn't change that in they're world she's just plain wrong.

I don't understand why that's so hard for you to get.

edited 18th Oct '15 12:18:29 PM by LSBK

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#26509: Oct 18th 2015 at 12:31:25 PM

I'm saying that they are justifiable from her point of view. No-one ever told her that her son was around the strength of his father. She may be wrong in the grander scale but everything except ignoring Goku is justified from her point of view. Ignoring Goku isn't even that big of a thing; he was just in a fight, of course he would be beaten up, her 5 year old that she hasn't seen in a year being unconscious takes priority.

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#26510: Oct 18th 2015 at 12:53:00 PM

The claim that she was unconcerned about Goku is utter bullshit.

She was clearly concerned when Goku was injured after the Saiyan saga and when he was unconscious after the heart condition.

Honestly, it seems most of you guys don't know what it is to be a parent. She's honestly not wrong most of the time.

She's also not wrong in that he needs to work support his family, especially since most of their expenses go into feeding the lazy bum.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26511: Oct 18th 2015 at 12:56:56 PM

No one says she's never shown concern for Goku.

Neither has anyone said that her being worried about her kids is understandable.

No one has said her wanting Goku to work is bad. Though that also brings up why she never considers getting a job.

Those things are not the issue.

edited 18th Oct '15 1:01:20 PM by LSBK

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#26512: Oct 18th 2015 at 1:32:32 PM

Hell, why doesn't she learn how to fly?

It'd actually be better and cost less than getting a car. In fact, there's a lot of Mundane Utility to Goku's abilities that don't really get explored.

There are probably more efficient ways for him to farm than with a tractor for example.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#26513: Oct 18th 2015 at 1:36:30 PM

Chi-chi's dream is to have a stereotypically normal life with a stereotypically normal family. Unfortunately for her, this is Dragon Ball, and she's married to Goku.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#26514: Oct 18th 2015 at 1:39:29 PM

[up][up] Like by hand. He was plowing several fields by hand every morning for half a year when he was a kid and he did it in, oh, an hour?

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#26515: Oct 18th 2015 at 1:42:58 PM

So Goku taking the Hercule Punch may be one of the funniest things I've seen in this franchise.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#26516: Oct 18th 2015 at 1:53:34 PM

I like that he decends to grab his tractor before flying over some buildings. Not gonna lie, I kinda wanted the alien fighter to be a pushover in human terms and for Mr. Hercule Satan to mop the floor with him.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#26517: Oct 18th 2015 at 2:16:29 PM

For the record, I never said that Chichi wasn't wrong or essentially insane for believing the things she did and being the way she is, what I am saying is that there's explanations for her behavior, and that she's not precisely despicable, she's just incredibly dumb.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26518: Oct 18th 2015 at 2:20:15 PM

[up]That's basically my assessment of her as well.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#26519: Oct 18th 2015 at 2:41:31 PM

.....

Dumber than Goku?

......is that possible?

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#26520: Oct 18th 2015 at 2:52:20 PM

Considering she never kept Her Ultraman Ripofff suit after growing up, well, yeah.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#26521: Oct 18th 2015 at 2:52:31 PM

Goku isn't stupid. Chichi also mostly just has incredibly warped priorities.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#26522: Oct 18th 2015 at 3:03:48 PM

Neither is actually stupid: they're both just extremely uneducated. Goku loves fighting and eating and Chi-chi wants the dream 'normal' family. They still love each other through it all.

MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
#26523: Oct 18th 2015 at 3:08:34 PM

To be fair, slapping Buu isn't any less stupid than when Bulma slapped Beerus.

Both Chi-Chi and Bulma were equally stupid in those respective scenes, but Chi-Chi had a better reason to slap Buu.

Anyway, should I even watch Dragonball Super? My brothers say they watch it, but I don't get the hype.

edited 18th Oct '15 3:13:14 PM by MsCC93

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26524: Oct 18th 2015 at 3:12:55 PM

Chichi had a better reason, but keep in mind that Bulma didn't know who Beerus was or what he was capable of, unlike with Chichi and Majin Buu. So it all evens out.

edited 18th Oct '15 3:18:09 PM by LSBK

MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
#26525: Oct 18th 2015 at 3:15:48 PM

[up]Like I said, they were both equally stupid in those scenes.

Chichi also mostly just has incredibly warped priorities.

Yeah, and she can be selfish sometimes.


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