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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#26101: Oct 8th 2015 at 7:13:41 PM

[up][up][up]Yeah, sure. Because there were a ton of animals that could've left that in the area they were in.

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#26102: Oct 8th 2015 at 8:16:12 PM

Clearly, Beerus isn't destroying things hard enough.

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#26103: Oct 8th 2015 at 9:37:04 PM

Oh my God, so many DBZ fans think Vegeta should have won everything ever.

"Oh man, Vegeta should have turned Super Saiyan 2 and killed Cell!"

"Oh man, he should have been the one to kill Kid Buu!"

"It would have been so cool if Vegeta were the Super Saiyan God and fought Beerus"

Fuuuuck oooooff.

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#26104: Oct 8th 2015 at 9:39:40 PM

Fanboys exist, yes.

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#26105: Oct 8th 2015 at 9:54:36 PM

The crap came from King Furry.

Anyway, regarding the Kaioken discussion, remember that Goku pulled out Kaioken x100 in the Lord Slug movie. tongue

Super Saiyan 3 + Kaioken x100 anyone?

edited 8th Oct '15 9:54:47 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#26106: Oct 8th 2015 at 9:58:39 PM

Wait, what? Are you referring to False Super Saiyan?

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#26107: Oct 8th 2015 at 9:58:59 PM

Keep in mind that a x100 Kaiouken is equivalent to the boost gained from Super Saiyan 2.

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#26108: Oct 8th 2015 at 10:01:46 PM

He actually did pull out a Kaio-kenx100 after Piccolo gave his his Ki. The Lord Slug movie's climax was just a clusterfuck wasn't it?

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#26109: Oct 8th 2015 at 11:00:05 PM

Both False SSJ and Kaioken x100 were in the Lord Slug movie.

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#26110: Oct 9th 2015 at 12:22:17 AM

He did??

I just rewatched that movie a while ago, and I don't even remember that.

I guess it just shows how forgettable the movies can be sometimes.

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#26111: Oct 9th 2015 at 12:28:04 AM

No, the movie doesn't specify the level of Kaio-ken used. It was the movie's promotional pamphlet that gave that info.

It does make sense considering how badly he wrecked the giant Slug, who was supposed to be stronger than regular Slug (despite that absolutely not being how the technique works in canon).

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#26112: Oct 9th 2015 at 12:29:52 AM

The Lord Slug movie in general was a clusterfuck.

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#26113: Oct 9th 2015 at 12:50:48 AM

Maybe being a of the Super Namekian class can make the Great Namek transformation into an actual power-up.

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#26114: Oct 9th 2015 at 1:15:05 AM

I alway wondered why Goku forgot to use kaioken until the very end of that movie.

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#26115: Oct 9th 2015 at 7:58:19 AM

The Lord Slug movie was the product of someone going, "Hey guys, nobody cares about original Dragon Ball anymore, but Piccolo-Daimao's awesomeness can't be denied. Let's do that again, but shittier."

edited 9th Oct '15 7:58:36 AM by TobiasDrake

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#26116: Oct 9th 2015 at 8:26:48 AM

Only thing I remember is that being the first movie Funi dubbed.

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#26117: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:24:44 AM

There was no "original" Dragon Ball when Lord Slug was in production. Slug was a blatant Piccolo ripoff but so was Bojack, because TOEI recognized a hit when they had one.

And no, Vegeta wasn't necessary to prove Goku is not the undisputed strongest or to provide a rival. Several characters already provided the former (Gohan, Gotenks, Uub), Majin Buu could have easily filled the latter (Fat Buu put up a better fight against Kid Buu than Vegeta) and Beerus proves Toriyama is still capable of creating such characters out of whole cloth if need be.

Moreover, learning he's not invincible and that there is always a bigger fish is something Goku learned back in Dragon Ball's third arc, assuming he did not already know that. The entire Buu arc, between Buu's appearance and getting his life back anyway, is Goku lamenting about threats still coming to Earth even after he died to stop the cycle, how inadequate everyone else is when it comes to fighting Buu and trying to get them ready for the next threat to come to Earth since he can't do it anymore on account of being dead. After Beerus decides to spare Earth, Goku immediately jokes about what to do about the next enemy. When Freeza bites it for the second time, Goku, more seriously, asks if they should try something different next time (Freezer wasn't stronger than Beerus but he was still stronger than Goku even after Goku got a new super form, so it still fits)

No one who has read/watched the majority of Dragon Ball should need Vegeta to remind them there is always a stronger opponent. That was cemented by the Fortune Teller Baba arc and cliche by the time Raditz arrived. Yo! Son Goku And His Friends Return was different precisely because the villain was a wimp compared to the last one.

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#26118: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:26:31 AM

I alway wondered why Goku forgot to use kaioken until the very end of that movie.

The movies had a reoccuring habit of Goku allowing himself to get his ass kicked before he finally thought to go Super Saiyan.

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#26119: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:27:29 AM

There was no "original" Dragon Ball when Lord Slug was in production.

There was in Japan.

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#26120: Oct 9th 2015 at 12:22:11 PM

No, no. There was TOEI re branding the anime Z out of the mistaken conclusion it was going to end soon, prompting the manga to make the explicit point that no, no it wasn't.

When things like GT, Online, Evolution and Super started popping up after the final volume, then there was the original Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball whatever to compare it to. Most of the fan base in Latin America, Europe and Asia would have made no distinction, it was only people in the 50 states who made that error due to Toonami showing Raditz first and the GT final bout video game would have corrected that misconception if simply picking up the more bearable manga or checking on one of the already extant fan sites did not.(For a more recent example, Digimon Xros Wars: The Young Hunters Leaping Through Time is not a separate series or even a second season of Digimon Xros Wars, yet there are two different pages on this very wiki)

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#26121: Oct 9th 2015 at 12:40:38 PM

Other than getting a hole in the gut, how was Bojack another copy of King Piccolo?

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#26122: Oct 9th 2015 at 12:44:43 PM

If anthing, Bojack and his crew are blatently Cell and the Cell Jrs.

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#26123: Oct 9th 2015 at 12:48:11 PM

You are correct that the Z distinction does not exist in the manga, but neither does Lord Slug so that point is moot.

By the time the Lord Slug movie was put into production, the anime had already drawn its line between the pre-Raditz portion and "Z".

edited 9th Oct '15 12:48:51 PM by TobiasDrake

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#26124: Oct 9th 2015 at 12:48:23 PM

[up][up] Lord Slug*

Lord Slug also made a wish to Shenron to get his youth back, just like King Piccolo.

edited 9th Oct '15 12:49:09 PM by Lionheart0

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#26125: Oct 9th 2015 at 4:21:40 PM

I don't think Bojack is a rip-off of a particular villain. He's just so bland that he could be anyone.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!

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