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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#2576: Apr 27th 2013 at 6:50:34 PM

I wonder how strong the humans did get. They probably surpassed Frieza by the end which would be impressive even if they couldn't keep up with the Saiyans.

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#2577: Apr 27th 2013 at 6:53:27 PM

No, they probably didn't. That's just absurd.

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#2578: Apr 27th 2013 at 6:57:51 PM

Krillin tried to fight Super Buu. Goku was too afraid to face Super Buu head-on. Therefore, Krillin is stronger than Goku.

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#2579: Apr 27th 2013 at 7:02:21 PM

[up][up]Wouldn't they sort of have to be to not get instantly annihilated by the Androids, Cell, or Buu?

How strong would you say they were by the end?

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#2580: Apr 27th 2013 at 7:06:17 PM

I'd say around 8% final form freiza at best.

edited 27th Apr '13 7:06:47 PM by Demongodofchaos2

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2581: Apr 27th 2013 at 7:07:32 PM

The Androids, Cell and Boo can all instantly annihilate them though. They have never shown being able to put up a fight against anyone on the level of Freeza.

Kuririn is the only one I think has a chance of approaching Freeza's first form, thanks to him having his power drawn out. However, that only put him at 75,000 and I think I may be overestimating him by thinking he can make any noticeable gains from there.

Throughout the series, the training methods used are constantly improved so that the heroes can continue getting stronger. However, the humans don't use the improved methods such as gravity training or RoSaT training, they just go back to regular training which is pretty ineffective. They also can't get Zenkais or have any other sort of special power up, so I don't see them improving much at all.

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#2582: Apr 27th 2013 at 7:20:01 PM

They should just bring the Old Kai over and have him unlock everyone's potential like he did Gohan.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2583: Apr 27th 2013 at 7:22:18 PM

Which would probably achieve jackshit.tongue

That reminds me, I really hope we don't get Mystic Tenshinhan in DBM. It would annoy me since Videl, Yamcha and Kuririn have already been eliminated and so he'd be the only one who gets to still participate with the power up... which would just be terrible.

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#2584: Apr 27th 2013 at 7:24:26 PM

Fine, they should revive Babidi and force him to give them all Majin boosts but relinquish his control over them. They'd all have M's on their foreheads, though. Which would be bad for Tien, I would think.

What is DBM and what is this Mystic Tien you speak of?

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#2585: Apr 27th 2013 at 7:32:49 PM

That'd make them even weaker!

And DBM is a fan comic that has good art and no plot. Dragon Ball Multiverse.

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#2586: Apr 27th 2013 at 7:37:06 PM

Even weaker? It strengthened Spopovich and Vegeta...

Eh.

And oh, it's one of those fan comic things.

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#2587: Apr 27th 2013 at 7:37:42 PM

I mean even weaker than old Kaioshin's power up would. It's basically the same thing but not as thorough.

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#2588: Apr 27th 2013 at 8:44:57 PM

Chichi was strong enough to draw Super Saiyan out of Goten, so I say Tien (who never stopped training) and Krillen (who is apparently stronger than Tien) at least rivaled Freeza by the end. They still would not be able to match #18 or Piccolo or Goten or any of their non human peers, probably not even Cyborg Freeza (that is probably why people would learn what his power level was) but Namek Freeza sure.

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#2589: Apr 27th 2013 at 9:00:17 PM

Fiiiiiiiiiller. Chichi can't compare to any base Saiyan, not even Raditz.

edited 27th Apr '13 9:00:51 PM by Saiga

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#2590: Apr 27th 2013 at 9:50:53 PM

In volume 36, Gohan did not start training Goten until he and Videl wanted to learn how to fly. By process of elimination he can only have been trained by Trunks or Chi Chi. Trunks can fly and Chi Chi cannot so it had to be Chi Chi. Therefor Chichi made Goten Super saiyan.

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#2591: Apr 27th 2013 at 9:51:57 PM

Um, no. We know Goten and Trunks fought before that, and they didn't need to be "made" to go Super Saiyan.

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#2592: Apr 28th 2013 at 7:16:54 PM

[up][up]What kind of logic is that? Goten and Trunks trained constantly, and just because Trunks can fly doesn't mean Goten could just because they trained together. Unless I'm misinterpreting your argument.

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#2593: Apr 29th 2013 at 11:52:15 AM

Mother of God that looks sexy. Come on Toei, remake the series from scratch you lazy bastards.

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#2595: Apr 29th 2013 at 9:29:53 PM

[up][up] But they're too busy doing the exact same thing for Sailor Moon, Cru! Get your priorities straight.

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#2596: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:13:13 AM

Why are Goten, Trunks, Piccolo and Gohan on the Kai planet? They were blown up with the Earth right?

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#2597: Apr 30th 2013 at 4:21:22 PM

[up][up] Which isn't a bad thing at all.

I'll admit, they are stupid to not make DBZ kai look like that, though.

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#2598: Apr 30th 2013 at 4:22:05 PM

Yeah, I didn't mean to knock Sailor Moon or anything. I just think it's a slap in the face for Dragon Ball to announce a full Sailor Moon remake when they couldn't be bothered to do the same for Kai.

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#2599: Apr 30th 2013 at 4:24:04 PM

Ah, I don't mind.

Besides, It's not like toei has tons and tons and tons of other franchises they go through with anniversaies every year, right?

edited 30th Apr '13 4:27:16 PM by Demongodofchaos2

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#2600: May 1st 2013 at 6:15:58 AM

Pure Win:

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