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#25726: Sep 28th 2015 at 1:47:30 PM

What's Anti-Saiyan technology? Some sort of ki-suppression field? Because I hate it when that shit shows up in fan fic. The most boring horseshit.

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#25727: Sep 28th 2015 at 1:48:42 PM

Only way I can see a Weak, but Skilled antagonist working is if they have an ability that outright hinders you. I think a few of the Shadow Dragons from GT had something like that.

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edited 28th Sep '15 1:49:10 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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#25728: Sep 28th 2015 at 1:48:53 PM

[up] That shows up in fanfic a lot? Do tell.

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#25729: Sep 28th 2015 at 1:52:19 PM

That just seems to be every other writer's go-to scenario for a DBZ fanfic.

"The Saiyans wake up one day and don't have super powers."

"An alien puts something in the atmosphere that takes ki away"

"Something something fuck you, aliens"

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#25730: Sep 28th 2015 at 1:54:38 PM

Let's try to come up with gimmicks ya'll :V

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#25731: Sep 28th 2015 at 1:56:11 PM

Something something magic makes everyone Saiyans.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#25732: Sep 28th 2015 at 1:57:29 PM

I just think that for all the centuries the Saiyans have been out conquering, someone would've at least tried to invent a universal shutdown for their abilities.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25733: Sep 28th 2015 at 1:59:24 PM

Something something bad guy is invulnerable to saiyans' ki. Humans and Piccolo have to deal with it. Or something.

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#25734: Sep 28th 2015 at 2:00:57 PM

Something something, bad guy has a weapon that renders everyone but the sayians weak and useless.

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#25735: Sep 28th 2015 at 2:02:49 PM

So..... nothing changes?

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#25737: Sep 28th 2015 at 2:07:40 PM

[up][up][up] So... Even the villain becomes weak and useless?

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#25738: Sep 28th 2015 at 2:08:30 PM

It would make for a funny fic if the bad guys didn't realize how strong the Sayians are.

"Haha, out weak-o-tron reduced all the earthlings to helpless weaklings! Now nothing can stop our invasion!"

"Uhm, Commander? It seems there are two individuals left who were not affected by the weak-o-tron. What should we do."

"They must have some rare genetic immunity to it. No matter! It's only two men! What can they do against out army?!"

Curbstomp ensues.

edited 28th Sep '15 2:09:20 PM by Shlugo_the_great

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#25739: Sep 28th 2015 at 2:10:09 PM

....

Okay, that actually would be pretty funny.

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#25740: Sep 28th 2015 at 2:15:10 PM

The thing about that is, Dragon Ball pretty much spits in the face of Weak, but Skilled; you need both skill and strength in this series. So even if those characters had decent gimmicks, they'd still need to be strong enough to actually stand a chance against. Which goes right back to the Power Creep argument.

Nowhere is this more evident than the kienzan. On its face, the kienzan is f*cking badass. Krillin demonstrably could have killed anyone up to and including Frieza with it.

The problem is, Krillin isn't powerful enough, fast enough, etc. to land it. He has the skill but not the strength.

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#25741: Sep 28th 2015 at 2:22:31 PM

[up][up][up]So...its pretty much the same as usual, just with an added bit of meta lol.

[up]Maybe if he ever bothered to combined it with Taiyoken, he might've had a chance. But meh.

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#25742: Sep 28th 2015 at 2:23:34 PM

Still wouldn't work. Vegeta couldn't sense energy nor could he see Krillin and he still dodged the Kienzan.

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#25743: Sep 28th 2015 at 2:24:42 PM

Would we really have lost much if the Kienzan killed Nappa, then Vegeta did the remaining curbstomping of the humans?

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#25744: Sep 28th 2015 at 2:27:58 PM

Nappa purpose wasn't to beat the humans, Vegeta could have done that himself, he didn't need help. Nappa purpose was to beat the humans and then get stomped by Goku to show off how much stronger he got.

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#25745: Sep 28th 2015 at 2:29:55 PM

I'm saying, did we really need Goku stomping Nappa?

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#25746: Sep 28th 2015 at 2:34:38 PM

On the Kienzan, it also doesn't help that Krillin feels the need to shout "Kienzan!" before using it even during surprise attacks.

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#25747: Sep 28th 2015 at 2:34:52 PM

That's how DBZ works, there's always a warm up villain that get promptly courbstomped before they move to the actually challenging one. Sometimes the warm up villain beats up the weaker Z fighters to show that they aren't a total wimp and that them getting curbed means something.

Nappa for Vegeta, Ginuy's for Freeza, 19 & 20 for 17 & 18, those three guys at Babidi ship. You get the idea.

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#25748: Sep 28th 2015 at 2:35:36 PM

[up] This sort of thing does go back to at least Drum.

Poor Drum.

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#25749: Sep 28th 2015 at 2:38:33 PM

Yeah, Drum was the first one now that I think about it. He easily outclassed Tenshinhan, who in the previous arc was Goku's equal, and then got one-shoted by Goku to show off how much stronger the Sacred Water made him. Then Goku moved on to the actually challenging fight with Daimao.

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#25750: Sep 28th 2015 at 2:38:54 PM

I'm saying, did we really need Goku stomping Nappa?

Yes. If Goku arrived just in time to join the others in getting roflstomped by Vegeta, we would have no indication of how much more powerful Goku's become.

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19 for 20.

edited 28th Sep '15 2:40:20 PM by TobiasDrake

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