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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25501: Sep 24th 2015 at 10:18:30 PM

I will say this, Toriyama did seem to want to keep Piccolo relevant more than the humans but not the saiyans and their spawn.

I wonder was he intentionally enforcing this "You're race dictates how useful you are." thing or did he just like Piccolo more than all of them.

edited 24th Sep '15 10:19:02 PM by LSBK

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#25502: Sep 24th 2015 at 10:20:07 PM

IIRC, Piccolo is his favorite character.

I don't blame him. :P

what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25503: Sep 24th 2015 at 10:20:36 PM

I actually just think you're trolling now so I'm done here. If I'm wrong, then yeah, you go do that.

Clearly Piccolo just needs to start hunting down Namekians and forcibly fusing with them so he can remain relevant.

edited 24th Sep '15 10:21:09 PM by Arha

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#25505: Sep 24th 2015 at 10:21:47 PM

He should do that thing where he absorbs King Piccolo after reviving him. :P

what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#25506: Sep 24th 2015 at 10:27:23 PM

[up][up][up]Again, this isn't the first time I've mentioned this, I don't know why you guys are reacting the way you are.

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#25507: Sep 24th 2015 at 10:29:25 PM

I doubt anyone with the connections to Toriyama and (legitimate) plans for future Dragon Ball stuff would spend all day arguing on an internet forum about a show that aired 20 years ago.

edited 24th Sep '15 10:29:44 PM by BaconManiac5000

what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#25508: Sep 24th 2015 at 10:35:23 PM

Don't quite have the connections yet but I do have legitimate plans for a series of live-action movies. Don't expect them soon though, I still need to get through school and get started as a producer/director.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25509: Sep 24th 2015 at 10:45:13 PM

Okay, assuming good faith for a moment. Ahem.

You will never be able to negotiate with Akira Toriyama on anything like an equal basis because he does not need you. You will never be able to dictate terms. You probably couldn't even put together a live action Dragonball film unless you paid for all of it yourself because there is no market in this country for it and because Evolution. It's never going to happen no matter how determined and talented you are. Ever.

edited 24th Sep '15 10:46:59 PM by Arha

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#25510: Sep 24th 2015 at 10:47:32 PM

Won't hurt to try.

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#25511: Sep 24th 2015 at 10:48:24 PM

Uh, yeah.

It will.

You'll have wasted much of your life devoted to something that won't ever happen.

Ever.

what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25512: Sep 24th 2015 at 10:48:50 PM

Sure, go ahead, have fun. Just don't expect anyone to take you seriously when you say things like that.

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#25513: Sep 24th 2015 at 10:49:21 PM

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what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#25514: Sep 24th 2015 at 10:50:08 PM

As an actual counter; Evolution sucked and we deserve better and with all the new content being released recently the market is primed and ready for it.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#25515: Sep 24th 2015 at 10:50:22 PM

I mean, you can be like those guys that make the live action trailers. But that's the nost you can ever aspire to.

My various fanfics.
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25516: Sep 24th 2015 at 10:56:47 PM

^^ That's not a counter, it's an argument against yourself. Primed and ready? Evolution is the reason why there won't be another Dragonball live action film. People hated it. It is literally the punch line of jokes.

Well, anyway, done talking about this. For real this time. Honest.

edited 24th Sep '15 10:57:32 PM by Arha

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#25517: Sep 24th 2015 at 11:00:55 PM

At one point in time, Nail could have easily kicked Vegeta's ass.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#25518: Sep 25th 2015 at 3:26:15 AM

Nail could've completely owned Vegeta up until the point of Vegeta's post-Recoome Zenkai.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25519: Sep 25th 2015 at 6:30:35 AM

Why spend so much time telling Pushover why his dream is never going to happen? Just say you doubt it and leave it at that.

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#25520: Sep 25th 2015 at 7:23:41 AM

I agree that King Piccolo SHOULD win, but if they ever actually fought I'm not so sure he WOULD win. Dende is apparently better at the Dragon Balls then Kami was, he DID get his potential unlocked, and even before that he could fly...I just don't know.

Flight is a technique, not a power level.

That being said, I think I agree with Critic here. Dende's battle power has never been measured, but he was introduced on Namek when battle powers were out of control and had his potential unlocked. Thematically, Piccolo Daimao should take this fight in a landslide, but the intense power creep of the Namek arc means there's a good chance nothing he does could even scratch Dende despite the latter being relatively harmless.

If Piccolo had just killed Frieza in his second form, everyone would be fine.

And then everyone would be fucked when Cell shows up.

If Vegeta had just killed Frieza in his first form rather than goading him into transforming, everyone would have been fine.

Because Vegeta couldn't have killed Frieza in his first form. He would be dead, Piccolo would show up, effortlessly blow first form Frieza to pieces, and everyone would hail the conquering hero without ever even knowing Frieza had transformations at all.

There is no way that Krillin's Power Level at the beginning of Namek was only 1,300 when his Power Level during the Saiyan Arc was 1,770. He was at 2,000 AT LEAST.

He was clocked at 1,500 when fighting Frieza's mooks, which we can assume was not the full extent of his power given that, as noted, he was at 1,770 when fighting the Saiyans.

He doesn't check in again until his power has already begun unlocking, at which point he's 13,000 while fighting Guldo.

By the time he fights Frieza, he's at 75,000.

At no point on Namek is he at 1,300, though that number may have come from someone misplacing a zero when looking at his battle power against Guldo.

This isn't the first time I've mentioned this, I don't know why you guys are reacting the way you are.

They're being needlessly rude about it, but the fact is, you have an certain optimism about your adaptation goals in this and other threads that, while certainly admirable, I'm not entirely sure is warranted. Making an adaptation is hard, expensive, and can easily fail from the moment of conception by something so simple as the original artist saying no.

It's great to have dreams and to reach for them, but when you present it like it would be no challenge at all to just walk into a Hollywood studio and go, "I have a script. Give me $75 million, licenses, and the best creators money can buy!" it makes people think you don't really have that firm a grasp on how entertainment is made.

Everyone usually just smiled and nodded and quickly changed the subject when you did this and, frankly, I'm not sure why they stopped doing so and instead opted for rudeness, but now it's out there.

Why spend so much time telling Pushover why his dream is never going to happen? Just say you doubt it and leave it at that.

Also that. I share your guys's skepticism, but there's no need to do the Macarena on the poor guy's hopes and dreams. This topic of conversation is dangerously close to shifting from being about the topic to being about each other and that is an explicit violation of forum rules. I've tried to be as tactful as possible about this. Can we call it good?

edited 25th Sep '15 7:33:23 AM by TobiasDrake

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#25521: Sep 25th 2015 at 7:33:13 AM

What would happen if Ginyu took over a Metamoran fusion?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#25522: Sep 25th 2015 at 7:43:26 AM

Making them is going to be hard as Katchin, I know this, and I would be willing to take the L on my Animorphs anime, but a good live-action Dragon Ball should be made and we deserve better than the atrocity of Dragonball Evolution. Battle of Gods, Resurrection 'F', and Dragon Ball Super have made Dragon Ball relevant again so the time is better than ever to try for success. If I had tried to make the movies at the time when Evolution actually came out, I would completely agree that there was a slim-to-none chance, but Dragon Ball is extremely relevant again and Evolution needs to be made up for. This is the best time in the last two decades to try making a live-action Dragon Ball.

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#25523: Sep 25th 2015 at 7:59:16 AM

I think most of us can agree that a well-done adaptation can only be a good thing, especially after the universally-reviled disaster that was Dragon Ball Evolution. And on TvTropes, more than anywhere, we should be encouraging the creation of new fiction, not laughing it out of the room.

Good luck in your endeavors, PMC.

edited 25th Sep '15 8:00:32 AM by TobiasDrake

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#25524: Sep 25th 2015 at 8:33:01 AM

The tone you were using made you look like a troll. That's what I kept think when I read about your "adaptation plans".

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#25525: Sep 25th 2015 at 9:01:34 AM

I just skipped the whole argument truthfully.

Though if you're 100% serious Pushover, you've got an uphill battle:

Before Edge Of Tomorrow, there'd never really been a good adaptation of a Japanese property (well, I'm likely forgetting something), and I doubt Toei or Toriyama would be willing to let it happen again after Evolution. There's no amount of Salve in the world that will soothe that burn.

.....As someone who's still obsessed with his Powered Armour in DBZ idea, I can't judge you.

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