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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25427: Sep 24th 2015 at 4:45:26 PM

Um, King Piccolo. You described why yourself, Dende literally has no combat skills or abilities at all and King Piccolo does.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25428: Sep 24th 2015 at 4:58:17 PM

Are you sure Dende has none rather than just being totally outclassed? He can fly at least.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25429: Sep 24th 2015 at 4:59:25 PM

Most likely both, actually.

edited 24th Sep '15 4:59:54 PM by LSBK

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#25430: Sep 24th 2015 at 5:04:32 PM

I agree that King Piccolo SHOULD win, but if they ever actually fought I'm not so sure he WOULD win. Dende is apparently better at the Dragon Balls then Kami was, he DID get his potential unlocked, and even before that he could fly...I just don't know.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25431: Sep 24th 2015 at 5:17:21 PM

Also, do we know for sure that the nameless Namekian was actually super strong before he split?

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#25432: Sep 24th 2015 at 5:47:00 PM

According to Guru, he'd have been able to defeat Freeza.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#25433: Sep 24th 2015 at 5:49:14 PM

Nail said the same, though that's probably because he was there when Guru said that.

Namekians used to be massive badasses apparently.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#25434: Sep 24th 2015 at 5:50:29 PM

It seems Guru's genes suck.

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#25435: Sep 24th 2015 at 5:50:45 PM

And honestly, given how Piccolo went from weaker than 3rd Form Freeza to as strong as Android 17, they were likely completely right.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25436: Sep 24th 2015 at 5:53:47 PM

Zelenal: Ah, but is he saying the Nameless Namekian before he split, or if Piccolo were to fuse back with Kami again?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#25437: Sep 24th 2015 at 6:10:07 PM

Since Piccolo arguably is the Nameless Namekian, technically both.

Also, I wonder if the limits on which Namekians can fuse with who came about due to all of the current ones being born from Guru?

I mean, for them, that's technically the closest thing to being inbred when you think about it. I imagine before the great disaster that kicked all their asses, they might have been less limited. The fact that Nameless had fighting ability, and the talent to create Dragonballs lends some credence to that in my opinion, but I could be wrong.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25438: Sep 24th 2015 at 6:29:22 PM

That's not quite what I meant. More like is it

A: The NN was, say, 2500 and then split into two guys who were both at 250. Each of them is only 10% as strong as the original and if they fused together the resulting being is 10x stronger than the one who absorbed the other. Thus, when Piccolo had, we'll say, 100,000,000 his power went up to a billion even those the NN was not that powerful before.
B: The NN had a PL of a billion to start with. Fusing just restored this entity.

I've been assuming the first thing.

edited 24th Sep '15 6:29:36 PM by Arha

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#25439: Sep 24th 2015 at 6:43:30 PM

Guru wasn't a fighter, so it's entirely understandable that his genes 'suck' for fighters.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25440: Sep 24th 2015 at 6:49:02 PM

Wasn't Nail around the level of the Ginyu force, ish? Though I don't remember why I think that. That's not terrible and would make him one of the most powerful non divine beings in existence up until the point Goku and the others flew off to Namek.

edited 24th Sep '15 6:49:34 PM by Arha

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#25441: Sep 24th 2015 at 6:50:31 PM

Nail was 44 thou, which should be around the ballpark of the middle three Ginyus, maybe slightly weaker.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25442: Sep 24th 2015 at 6:50:41 PM

His power level was 44,000. That's probably around Jeice, Burter, and Recoome's level.

edited 24th Sep '15 6:51:06 PM by LSBK

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#25443: Sep 24th 2015 at 6:58:29 PM

Remember that Kami >> Mr. Popo >> King Piccolo

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#25444: Sep 24th 2015 at 7:01:22 PM

[up] V-Jump says Popo's almost five times stronger than Kami, actually.

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#25445: Sep 24th 2015 at 7:02:44 PM

V-Jump also says that King Piccolo is strongwr than Kami. V-Jump is bullshit.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#25446: Sep 24th 2015 at 7:14:10 PM

Actually, he probably was stronger after he restored his youth.

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#25447: Sep 24th 2015 at 7:15:09 PM

That makes a lot more sense.

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#25448: Sep 24th 2015 at 7:17:34 PM

Nope. Apparently Kami could have easily destroyed even young King Piccolo.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#25449: Sep 24th 2015 at 7:19:24 PM

Then why did that V-Jump section, which is generally considered accurate, say he was weaker?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#25450: Sep 24th 2015 at 7:21:41 PM

Don't know.

Actually, now that I think about it, I do think it was mentioned in series when Goku met Kami that Kami could have stopped him (with the only thing hampering him being the life link thing they had going back then).

Not sure on that though. I do re-call Goku asking where the hell Kami was when King Piccolo went on his second Rofl-stomping tour of the everyone's face.

edited 24th Sep '15 7:22:36 PM by HandsomeRob

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