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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#25376: Sep 23rd 2015 at 7:16:29 AM

"No wishes that exceed the power of the creator" always seemed pretty iffy to me, since Shenron clearly can do this Kami and Dende cannot.

edited 23rd Sep '15 7:16:38 AM by Shlugo_the_great

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#25377: Sep 23rd 2015 at 1:55:35 PM

Just because he has a different set of powers doesn't mean he's not exceeding their power amount.

So Dende is powerful enough to resurrect people, as in, he has the necessary amount of power to do so, but he does not know how, or he just does not possess the spell 'Resurrection' and his class is unable to learn it.

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#25378: Sep 23rd 2015 at 6:39:13 PM

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#25380: Sep 23rd 2015 at 7:19:21 PM

[up] Who's that next to King Kai? Pikkon?

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#25382: Sep 23rd 2015 at 8:14:11 PM

I like the Chi-Chi and Mecha Frieza redesigns.

That is Chi-Chi in there right?

One Strip! One Strip!
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#25384: Sep 23rd 2015 at 9:05:04 PM

I still like the Doctolver Gerocelot design.

edited 23rd Sep '15 9:05:15 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#25385: Sep 23rd 2015 at 9:11:45 PM

I really like the Super Saiyan Three. Being a being of almost pure energy is, I feel, a way better representation of "even further beyond" than even bigger, dumber hair.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#25386: Sep 24th 2015 at 12:54:38 AM

Some of those are cool, but Cell's redesign is a crime against humanity. That's just plain awful.

I didn't like Super Saiyan 3's redesign. The regular Super Saiyan 3 is perfectly Up To Eleven, it takes the basis of the previous forms (hair style changing) and goes totally overboard. The energy form is just out of nowhere, and is very generic.

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#25387: Sep 24th 2015 at 1:47:09 AM

I don't like most of those designs tbh, but that's probably because I'm too used to the normal ones.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#25388: Sep 24th 2015 at 3:58:16 AM

I'm not really taken in by the redesigns either.

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#25389: Sep 24th 2015 at 5:08:53 AM

I liked the Bulma one by Chi-chi's side.

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#25390: Sep 24th 2015 at 5:23:41 AM

Seriously though, what was the actual reason for not including Dabura in Xenoverse when his damn sister is one of the main villains?

To bring him back in the sequel?

I didn't like Super Saiyan 3's redesign. The regular Super Saiyan 3 is perfectly Up to Eleven, it takes the basis of the previous forms (hair style changing) and goes totally overboard. The energy form is just out of nowhere, and is very generic.

It reminded me too much of Naruto's transformations.

edited 24th Sep '15 5:24:30 AM by Lionheart0

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#25391: Sep 24th 2015 at 5:53:24 AM

THAT'S what it reminded me of!

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#25392: Sep 24th 2015 at 6:02:01 AM

Oh God! You're right.

Super Saiyan 3 redesign......rejected!

One Strip! One Strip!
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#25393: Sep 24th 2015 at 6:51:52 AM

Into the trash it goes.

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#25394: Sep 24th 2015 at 7:19:40 AM

I don't think the Western fan redesigns are bad at all actually. Just different. Goku for example, barring the SSJ 3 concept, looks great, ditto for the Dr. Gero and Android 19 designs.

edited 24th Sep '15 7:20:06 AM by MyssaRei

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#25395: Sep 24th 2015 at 7:20:20 AM

Just because he has a different set of powers doesn't mean he's not exceeding their power amount.

So Dende is powerful enough to resurrect people, as in, he has the necessary amount of power to do so, but he does not know how, or he just does not possess the spell 'Resurrection' and his class is unable to learn it.

Consent, consent, consent.

"Powerful enough to grant the wish" has always been depicted as "more powerful than the person the wish is meant to affect, or else that person has to provide consent." If a person doesn't consent to being resurrected and is more powerful than Dende, it's unlikely the Dragon can resurrect them, just like how the Dragon can't teleport them or kill them or turn them into a bunny unless they allow it to.

A wish granted by Dende's dragon could kill Beerus if the latter consented to dying, but could not resurrect Krillin if he refused to come back. Mr. Satan, however, would have no choice one way or the other. Dende is more powerful than Mr. Satan so the Dragon overrules his will.

edited 24th Sep '15 7:22:28 AM by TobiasDrake

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#25396: Sep 24th 2015 at 7:23:21 AM

You know, I wonder why the gang didn't just have Shenron just change the course of the Saiyans' ships when they were on their way to Earth and send them into an asteroid belt or a star or something. That's killing them without needing their consent.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25397: Sep 24th 2015 at 7:25:54 AM

It's still affecting them without their consent. Moving them into a different location without permission should be considered the same as teleporting them.

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#25398: Sep 24th 2015 at 7:31:05 AM

  • BULMA: Shenron, I wish for you to kill the Saiyans on their way to Earth!
  • SHENRON: They are beyond my power to influence.
  • BULMA: Shenron, I wish for you to transport their ships into the nearest star!
  • SHENRON: I still cannot move them without their consent.
  • BULMA: Shenron, I wish for you to transport only their ships!

edited 24th Sep '15 7:33:21 AM by TobiasDrake

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TheConductor Since: Jan, 2011
#25399: Sep 24th 2015 at 7:33:13 AM

I always thought that Shenron, had he been willing to put in the effort could have killed Vegeta and Nappa through use of being a Literal Genie!

Shenron: Hey, Saiyans, can I kill you guys?

Vegeta: Oh suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure you can dragon, go ahead and "kill us"

Shenron: Great! Thanks. *glowly red eyes"

  • Veta's heart stops*

edited 24th Sep '15 7:34:33 AM by TheConductor

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#25400: Sep 24th 2015 at 7:46:26 AM

[up][up] Exactly!

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