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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#25301: Sep 20th 2015 at 5:59:47 PM

I imagine that they're still squabbling to see who takes control, since that's exactly what Sorbet and Tagoma set off to stop by reviving Freeza.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#25302: Sep 20th 2015 at 6:30:21 PM

I bet even the Galactic Patrol could kick their asses now.

Also, I finally watched Ressurection F. Gotta admit, all that talk about Goku and Vegeta needing to learn to work together, in addition to what we just saw in the Manga makes me thing we may actually see Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegitto.

And who knows how strong that bastard will be.

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#25303: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:00:38 PM

[up] Definitely stronger than Zarbon, that's for sure.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#25304: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:03:20 PM

Perhaps even stronger than Hercule.

Also, Jaco is pretty awesome. He's the sanest dude there really, and this is someone who hasn't fought Frieza before.

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#25305: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:08:41 PM

SSGSS Vegito might even surpass Recoome in strength.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#25306: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:09:46 PM

Even Guuldo would be unable to stop him.

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#25307: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:15:32 PM

I really don't want Vegetto back. If they're building up to it...sure, whatever, I'll watch it. But Fusion is the kind of plot element that I wouldn't mind if they dropped. It didn't really add anything. In fact, it took more away. It meant characters were suddenly useless individually. You couldn't use teamwork, you just had to fuse.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#25308: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:18:03 PM

Well don't worry your pretty little head. Saiyan Arrogance™ will guarantee Vegito will never show his face again.

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#25309: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:19:05 PM

Well, they'll need something to take on the inevitable villain that will inevitably Worf Beerus and Whis.

edited 20th Sep '15 7:19:18 PM by HamburgerTime

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#25310: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:23:07 PM

I mean, he's a popular character and all. "Popular" in the same way that Broly is popular, in that people only like him because he's ridiculously overpowered. But if he's popular, and he would sell well...

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#25311: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:29:26 PM

I think it will be fine. Vegetto is Godzilla Threshold incarnate. Now that they are both probably as powerful individually with the God power as they were when they were Vegetto (likely more so) Goku and Vegeta are unlikely to ever want to do it unless someone so bad and so evil came across that the idea of fusing together again seemed completely plausible.

The fact that we now have two ways to undo it (getting absorbed by Buu while having a shield), or using the Dragonballs to undo it) means like damn near everything in this series, it's no longer a permanent act makes it even more likely.

As for Beerus and Whis being worfed.....I wonder. More likely, they'll just dick around and refuse to help like in Resurrection F so fusing will be the only option left.

Anyway, I said this before, but lets hope that this was the last of the Frieza forces. If they find Namek and revive him again (unlikely since they don't know Namekian), he'd finally learn to train properly, then they might never be able to stop him. The guy has terrifying potential.

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#25312: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:30:23 PM

That's not the only reason - he's also hilarious. Combining Goku's enthusiasm and carefree nature with Vegeta's assholery makes for a very funny dickhead.

And I'd prefer them to have an actual good reason not to fuse if they're not going to do it. Individuals are already useless as long as the potential to use it is there, even if they're being too selfish to use it.

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#25313: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:32:12 PM

The Planet Trade Organization is a business. The empire that's falling apart would logically by King Kold's.

I dislike Dragon Ball Minus but I like Yo, Son Goku And His Friends Return, Jaco The Galactic Patrolman and Revival Of F for giving us a glimpse at the rest of the universe.

1: There have been fierce battles going on since the death of Freeza.

2: There have been other space fairing groups that have been in opposition to Freeza and Cold for a long time.

3: The universe has not been standing still. Not only are there fighters of multiple allegiances who have been raising their power to levels comparable to the Earthling fighters, their technology has also improved in areas.

4: The other societies do know about Majin Buu, but the gods are regarded as myths by some.

If Dragon Ball Online ever comes back...online, should be kick ass in nothing else but scope. At the very least they'd have to add something in between the end game Time Breakers and the early-mid game Red Pants and Naraka. Definitely should do some expansion of the Freeza army remnants. How will the Galactic patrol react to the time patrol?

edited 8th Oct '15 5:20:34 AM by IndirectActiveTransport

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#25314: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:36:33 PM

@ Rob: It's something of a rule of shonen that when you introduce supporting characters stronger than your lead, they're going to job eventually. Look at what happened to, among others, Ace, Jiraiya, and Yamamoto.

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#25315: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:44:21 PM

Korin never jobbed.

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#25316: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:45:21 PM

Neither did Kaio.

And Whis is basically Kaio 2.0

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#25317: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:46:32 PM

Although Kaio is Kami 2.0, who did job...

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#25318: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:48:35 PM

Yeah, but I'm not saying that type will never job, just that they don't always follow that rule.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#25319: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:49:32 PM

[up]X6 True that. Well, I guess we'll see.

You know, despite the mistakes he made during the battle (by not fully grasping his training and being too impatient to fully master it), I'm damned impressed by his back up plan. Especially its simplicity. Wait until Goku drops his guard, and then shoot his ass.

It's kinda hard to believe a simple energy gun could damage Goku that much as a Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan though. You'd think even with his guard down, he'd naturally just tank it with nary a scratch (then again, I'm guessing Frieza gave Sorbet the strongest gun he could in order to maximize their chances).

It's actually scary how despite his numerous errors, and his Butt-Monkey / Break the Haughty status in this film, Frieza still could have actually won at multiple points if things on either side had been different.

edited 20th Sep '15 7:49:56 PM by HandsomeRob

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#25320: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:49:46 PM

[up][up]Exactly, Popo never jobbed, either.

edited 20th Sep '15 7:50:16 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#25321: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:57:47 PM

[up][up]Remember that, when Ki-using characters drop their guard and relax their Ki, their durability drops to normal level. The rock scene might've been filler, but it was accurate to the mechanics in the series.

edited 20th Sep '15 8:24:14 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#25322: Sep 20th 2015 at 8:21:47 PM

That makes a rock just as dangerous as a gun, so naturally a laser gun would be much more dangerous. Lethal even.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#25323: Sep 20th 2015 at 8:29:20 PM

Indeed.

Another thing that occurs to me.....

Here's a thought. If Frieza hadn't come up with the contingency plan, he probably would have tried the last second planet destruction sooner.

Would Goku had been able to stop him? He's certainly more aware of how willing Frieza is to destroy the planet then Vegeta, but it's hard to tell.

edited 20th Sep '15 8:29:30 PM by HandsomeRob

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#25324: Sep 20th 2015 at 8:46:37 PM

[up]I really wouldn't say that Goku is more aware of Freeza's willingness to destroy a planet than Vegeta, especially since Vegeta worked under him for years. If Freeza had done it though, Whis just would've reversed time and the end of the movie would be the same, except with Goku and Vegeta switched.

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#25325: Sep 20th 2015 at 10:47:48 PM

Goku is bullet proof even when he doesn't expect it, even when it's with a "powered gun". I don't get why everyone thinks the ring used shoot him in the movie must have been so weak.

What bugs me about Revival Of F is that they say Goku's problem is "over confidence", which causes him to let his guard down, but that's not what happens at all.

1: Vegeta says Goku is correct, they need to work together, and asks for a sensu bean. Goku obliges but Vegeta uses this as an opportunity to sucker sledge him unconscious.

2: Whis says that's enough training for now, Whis goes on to critique their performances, tells them about training Beerus and then sucker punches Goku while he's trying not to laugh.

3: Freeza assures the spectators he wants no help fighting Goku. Freeza fights, loses to and grovels before Goku. Goku keeps his attention on Freeza while assuring him he will still be allowed to leave, Goku get's shot by a spectator he was specifically told would be butting out.

Yeah, there is a slightly recurring theme. Goku drops his guard and ends up taking much more damage from an attack he'd easily brush off with his guard up, but I don't see how that's overconfidence. Each was a case of good faith betrayed, expecting his opponents not to be assholes. He's not overconfident, he's too trusting. Now if we got a scene in the movie that established Vegeta/Whis/Freeza interpret "trust" or "naivety" as "overconfidence", that'd be fine. But we don't.

edited 8th Oct '15 5:25:30 AM by IndirectActiveTransport

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