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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2501: Apr 13th 2013 at 10:46:01 PM

That's a really awesome track and scene.

Also that has to hurt like hell.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2502: Apr 13th 2013 at 11:25:28 PM

Way to help him out, Piccolo.

Also, this is worse.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2503: Apr 14th 2013 at 4:55:17 AM

So does anyone here have the Kai DV Ds or Blu Rays? I'm wondering because I heard they used the familiar English names for the TV versions while using the correct Japanese names for the home release. (example: Destructo Disk for TV, Kienzan for DVD/Bluray)

I'm curious because I'm watching it right now and Krillin just used Destructo Disk against Perfect Cell. It's been the Japanese name every other time though. Same goes for Solar Flare. It was Tayo-Ken both times it was used on Namek.

So I have no idea if I'm watching the actual DVD version or a TV Rip. I don't think it can be TV Rip because there are no logos or anything and swearing is still included. (bastard, hell, that kind thing) Also didn't the TV airings only use one version of Dragon Soul? I've got the right one according to DB Wiki ( Part 7, which I'm on, has the version with everyone singing together(

I'm just kinda confused if I'm watching the censored version or not.

edited 14th Apr '13 4:57:00 AM by Nikkolas

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2504: Apr 14th 2013 at 9:15:14 AM

When Trunks shot a hole through King Cold, could you see the cliff behind him through the hole, or was it just a purple spot like his skin (As if Trunks only shot through the armor)?

Do dead characters have halos or little balls of light?

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2505: Apr 14th 2013 at 9:22:29 AM

Well they had halos way back in Namek. Haven't seen any dead characters yet in this arc. I used different downloads however.

As for King Cold, that was ages ago. I can't remember to be honest.

I'll know if it's the censored version when I get to Gohan vs. Cell. The blood is removed from his arm in the censored version it seems.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2506: Apr 15th 2013 at 12:12:15 AM

Well I know which one I prefer in terms of Gohan's SSJ 2 transformation.

I just didn't like Clinkenbeard's scream... It had no emotion to me. I know others feel differently but TO ME it was just a lot of yelling with no real feeling.

And then the ending narration... What the fuck was that.

"Finally pushed to his breaking point by Cell, Gohan lets his anger BOOIIIIILLL OVEERRRRR - next dragon ball z kai."

Yes, Morgan is a better narrator than Hebert but they totally undersold one of the greatest - and in my opinion, THE greatest - moments in DBZ history.

I'll take this any day.

And now I think on it...that's not even the full transformation. It doesn't stop until next episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIH9uas-uPk&t=2m24s

And once Gohan Angers kicks in...

And the final scream hits...that's the real peak of the whole sequence.

edited 15th Apr '13 1:09:07 AM by Nikkolas

#2507: Apr 15th 2013 at 1:34:17 AM

Kai did do one thing better than the original dub for that scene: they didn't have Gohan monologuing after 16's death.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2508: Apr 15th 2013 at 2:09:18 AM

I do agree there. There was a guy on another forum who made his own version of the scene with the original dub + Spirit vs. Spirit (the original Japanese insert song for SSJ 2 Gohan) but he had the music playing over the monologue adn then he faded it out a bit so you just got the scream.

It was awesome.

Then he took the video down. :/

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2509: Apr 15th 2013 at 9:59:37 AM

I got the guy to eupload his version of SSJ 2 Gohan without monologue.

edited 15th Apr '13 9:10:17 PM by Nikkolas

Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#2510: Apr 15th 2013 at 10:06:00 AM

I will give you props just for being willing to put up with the current Youtube.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2511: Apr 15th 2013 at 8:41:15 PM

It still fucking gives me chills to this day.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2512: Apr 15th 2013 at 8:59:33 PM

Incidentally I was just watching that.

"I LOVE CORNBREAAAAAAAAAD!!!!"

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2513: Apr 15th 2013 at 10:17:39 PM

This is why the Z Cell Saga can't be beat.

edited 15th Apr '13 10:20:55 PM by Nikkolas

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2514: Apr 16th 2013 at 2:58:24 AM

...and this is why the Z Freeza Saga can be beat.

Well unless it's in terms of hilariousness, in which case it is pretty beastly.

I mean seriously, just try and top this.

edited 16th Apr '13 3:01:03 AM by Nikkolas

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2515: Apr 16th 2013 at 8:47:29 AM

This tops it all. Silly dubbers~

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2516: Apr 16th 2013 at 9:34:13 AM

The animation was just really bad there to begin with. :(

Well that's enough silliness. Let's get back to what DBZ is really all about.

Power Level Chat.

Any thoughts on how strong these guys were?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2517: Apr 16th 2013 at 9:41:32 AM

Stronger than Yamcha.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2518: Apr 16th 2013 at 7:37:27 PM

Ya know, I can kinda see why some people are upset about the Androids being so strong.

I agree with Saiga and others that suddenly overpowered androids are no worse than suddenly overpowered aliens but some people just don't think it follows the logical story progression.

Goku's journey through all of Dragon Ball/Part 1 was to be the Strongest Under the Heavens. At the end he finally won the Tenkaichi Budokai and cemented himself as the most powerful person on the planet.

Then in the next arc we'd learn that fighters from space > the strongest of Earth. So Goku ventures into the stars and eventually confronts and bests the guy who holds the titel of the Strongest in the Universe.

As you can see there is a clear and simple progression here.

Then the Android Saga hits and suddenly that progression goes out the window.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2519: Apr 16th 2013 at 7:40:32 PM

Gero was smarter than Goku was strong, I guess?

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2520: Apr 17th 2013 at 12:51:51 AM

[up] It's true that Gero was a brilliant scientist (much like Bardock) but he still fails to understand simplistic cliches.

edited 17th Apr '13 1:37:00 AM by Nikkolas

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#2522: Apr 17th 2013 at 4:12:39 PM

Your anime admiration is getting contagious

Anyway, that is really what I want to see more of. Goku lives in Uub's village occasionally visiting his family and Pan train to become like Goku, Uub looks to the now mature Goten and Trunks for leadership, Majin Buu fights Pan/Goten/Trunks/Vegeta in the finals (and probably wins since Satan assumed Goku vs Buu was a foregone conclusion)

I guess there are worse ends the series could have had, And the Adventure Continues would have been acceptable but GT has happened. Something should really wash the bad taste it left behind away for good.

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RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#2523: Apr 17th 2013 at 7:54:05 PM

Goku: "Bye, everyone I've ever known my entire life! I'm going to live in Uub's village and teach him to fight, so I won't see you for years at a time!"

Gohan: "Wait, what? Why don't you just treat being Uub's master like a 9 to 5 job and teleport home every evening? That way, you wouldn't have to abandon us all. Y'know, again. Better yet, put Uub in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber with Goten and Trunks for a couple days."

Goku: "Silly Gohan, my ways are mysterious, but you can't deny there's a method to my madness."

Krillin: "No, really, man, me and Piccolo have both spent more time with either of your sons than you. WTF."

Goku: "Bye, best friend, have fun never hanging out with me ever again!"

Chi-Chi: "I want a divorce!"

Goku: "La la la la I'm not listening!" (flies away with Uub.)

Chi-Chi: "...Does anyone know if Yamcha's single?"

Everyone: (laughs uproariously.)

Chi-Chi: "Ha ha, heh, yeah, I crack myself up. But seriously, Tien. Is he single?"

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2524: Apr 17th 2013 at 7:56:36 PM

Yeah, it does seem like a bit of a dumb move to have Goku outright leave to live with Uub, rather than just visit him occasionally or teleport-commute.

At least they got ten whole years with Goku between Buu's defeat and Uub training, though.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2525: Apr 17th 2013 at 8:04:20 PM

Goku: What's a..."divorce"? Can I fight it?

Lawyer: Mr. Son, this is no laughing matter. You are going to be facing serious problems given your lack of employment for the entriety of your life. How do you expect to pay child support?

Goku: Well I know this Guardian of the Earth guy... He might have some money. Or maybe I can wish for it from my magic dragon friend.

Lawyer: I said this is no laughing matter! Your wife is leveling allegations of child neglect and endangerment!

Goku: Gohan was never in danger. I knew he could win the whole time which is why I didn't tell him about my plan.

Lawyer: And what of your other son?

Goku: Oh, you mean Goten? Well I never put "Goten" in danger if you want to get technical.

Lawyer: We lawyers do love technicalities... But anyway, your wife is also saying she only married you because you screwed up her head royally by molesting her while you were boh children?

Goku: Oh you mean when I kicked her in the crotch? I did that sort of thing to every woman or girl I met.

edited 17th Apr '13 8:07:11 PM by Nikkolas


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