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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#22526: Aug 9th 2015 at 7:58:37 PM

Actually, the Mafuba was also used to seal Kami so, despite the name, it can evidently seal anything.

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#22527: Aug 9th 2015 at 8:56:34 PM

Technically it was a reverse Mafuba. A counter technique, so maybe reversing it make it capable of sealing anyone.

I find it funny how terrified Daimaou was of the Mafuba. Just thinking someone could do it was enough to leave him totally frozen in fear.

He'd been kicking Roshi's ass—in the anime at least—before hand, but as soon as he realized the old man knew the Mafuba, he became so terrified, that rather than trying to kill the latter before he could use the technique, he instead chose to run like hell.

In a really twisted sense, Jr. creating the counter mafuba could be seen as a sort of Face Your Fears type thing for him. He had to conquer the very thing that terrified his past incarnation/father/previous self so much.

Even funnier, is that just like his dad, after dealing with the Mafuba (avoiding it twice through luck for Daimaou, and countering it for Jr.), Goku just decided to beat the shit out of him with his bare hands.

edited 9th Aug '15 9:03:49 PM by HandsomeRob

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#22528: Aug 9th 2015 at 9:00:08 PM

That wasn't a "reverse" Mafuba, he just reversed it so that it was targeting Kami.

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#22529: Aug 9th 2015 at 9:01:16 PM

In fairness, of course Daimou would be scared of the Mafuba. He'd kicked the shit out of Roshi's master until he pulled that bullshit out of nowhere and trapped him in a rice cooker for nearly half a millennium.

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#22531: Aug 9th 2015 at 9:02:51 PM

Daimaou.

Or だいまおう.

Or 大魔王 is you really.

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#22532: Aug 9th 2015 at 10:24:20 PM

I liked the bit in Supersonic Warriors where Piccolo used the Mafuba to seal up Buu when fusing with Demon King Piccolo didn't give him quite enough power to beat him.

Then he chucked the bottle in the ROSAT for good measure.

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#22533: Aug 9th 2015 at 10:26:52 PM

Random thought, but I've seen the clip a few times now where some of the protagonists from Dragon Ball Heroes are trying to fight Goku at the World Tournament, and it's fucking hilarious every time. They are clearly coming at him full-tilt, and he is just casually blocking and catching and shoving them around. He is literally slapping their shit with one hand. I love it.

edited 9th Aug '15 10:37:47 PM by SonOfSharknado

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#22534: Aug 9th 2015 at 10:35:26 PM

alternatively you could just call him demon king piccolo since that's what "daimaou" means (well technically it's "great demon king" but whatever).

edited 9th Aug '15 10:37:11 PM by wehrmacht

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#22535: Aug 9th 2015 at 10:38:35 PM

You could do that, too. There are also a couple of other ways you could romanicize 大魔王.

However, they were calling him "Daimou" which is just wrong regardless of how you look at it.

edited 9th Aug '15 10:39:30 PM by Zelenal

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#22536: Aug 9th 2015 at 11:19:21 PM

Here's a recorded clip of Japanese DBZ from it's original broadcast.

Notice how high-quality the audio is from usual pieces of media like Dragon Boxes.

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#22538: Aug 9th 2015 at 11:44:07 PM

Well of course it'd be high quality, unlike Toei, they didn't lose the original audio masters. Especially since the Kai dub is recent.

Edit: WAIT, I JUST NOTICED, THE SPECIAL EFFECTS (which were kept from the original JP dub) is not as high quality as the original broadcast recording!

edited 9th Aug '15 11:45:58 PM by Rinsankajugin

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#22539: Aug 10th 2015 at 12:00:20 AM

I always wondered this: why, in the anime, does Freeza's perception of Trunks divide diagonally when Trunks cut him almost cleanly in half?

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#22540: Aug 10th 2015 at 12:09:34 AM

Because the cut Trunks made is diagonal (it goes from a bit left of the center of his head to near his right hip) and it looked cooler.

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#22541: Aug 10th 2015 at 1:28:09 AM

That scene lives and dies on Rule of Cool.

Like, it sort of ruins the story of Dragon Ball forever. But I don't care, because it's just that awesome.

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#22542: Aug 10th 2015 at 5:39:36 AM

I've had friends sorta making fun of me for sticking with the American version and missing out on JPN OST, which I'll admit is pretty good.

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#22543: Aug 10th 2015 at 6:22:14 AM

Toei should know, and do better then what they did for this episode.

Shows what animated franchise they have the highest priorities....

edited 10th Aug '15 6:28:03 AM by Demongodofchaos2

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#22544: Aug 10th 2015 at 7:21:12 AM

I liked Team Four Star adding in the bluescreen effect, then working the bluescreen tone into the badass "Trunks is awesome" music that picks up.

One of their best moments.

edited 10th Aug '15 7:21:33 AM by TobiasDrake

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#22545: Aug 10th 2015 at 9:38:14 AM

TOEI has never been particularly good to Dragon Ball. I don't know what's more surprising, that their lackluster efforts manage to make so much money or that people are still surprised by their lack luster efforts.

Revival Of F was pretty enjoyable for it's faults though. And no, I don't count Beerus's English voice as a fault, even if I'm not used to it yet(the limited release is though). The best voices are the Latin American dub's, at least for Krillen(as usual) and Jaco.

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#22546: Aug 10th 2015 at 9:53:09 AM

I still think that his intro has a lot to do with Future Trunks' popularity. The rest comes from the History of Trunks special.

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#22547: Aug 10th 2015 at 9:54:43 AM

Which is funny because normally when a brand new character shows up out of nowhere with awesome superpowers that blow everyone out of the water, then proceeds to effortlessly make short work of one of the franchise's biggest badasses, people cry foul.

Which they probably would have done with Trunks if he didn't quickly re-establish his position in the pecking order, losing out to Goku's finger and then being quickly surpassed by the rest of the group via his time travel; he stayed at the same level while everyone else grew around him in the three years that followed.

Future Trunks outperformed everybody the moment he arrived, but he didn't stay as the unbeatable new guy for very long, which meant he didn't have a chance to step on too many toes. There weren't even too many hurt feelings over him beating Frieza because we already got the climactic battle with Frieza that we wanted - if he'd done this on Namek, it might be received very differently.

edited 10th Aug '15 9:59:44 AM by TobiasDrake

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#22548: Aug 10th 2015 at 10:04:16 AM

Well, he's still stronger than the humans and, after leaving the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, Piccolo.

Also, while that's certainly part of it, I think another part is simply that his intro was awesome enough for people to not mind as it was happening. What you said definitely keeps people from minding in retrospect but I think plain old Rule of Cool kept people from minding when it happened.

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#22549: Aug 10th 2015 at 1:58:17 PM

Dragon Ball has a great track record of making charact ers that would normally be unlikable be either tolerated or even downright loved by the fans by beating the crap out of them, whether physically or mentally. Toriyama knew that we like characters who suffer more than characters who don't.

Also, when a Shoujo series has better action than frikkin' Dragon Ball, you know you've done goofed.

And yes, despite the awesome action, Pretty Cure is a shoujo anime. It just so happens to be an example of an awesome Magical Girl Warrior shoujo.

edited 10th Aug '15 1:59:30 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#22550: Aug 10th 2015 at 1:59:21 PM

[up][up][up] A lot of people still cry foul despite all of that, he's almost a Base Breaker with many people calling him a Canon Sue.

Which is why you shouldn't just read a list of standard mary sue tropes and use that as your only basis.

edited 10th Aug '15 1:59:52 PM by Saiga


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