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Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#19301: Jun 18th 2015 at 4:34:32 PM

If you think like that then we can take none of his statements seriously. He made Goku the hero because he felt Goku was better-suited to be it than Gohan was.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#19302: Jun 18th 2015 at 4:36:35 PM

Not really; Japanese society has an entire system around not saying what you really mean while still getting the message across. Hamburger Time is right that even if he didn't want to do it, he'd most likely never just come out and say so.

Edit: That doesn't mean it wasn't his own decision but straightforwardness isn't exactly a virtue there.

edited 18th Jun '15 4:37:27 PM by LSBK

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#19303: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:00:18 PM

So he was being polite to his Japanese bosses when he said he didn't like the way the movies portrayed Goku or when he said he disliked dragonball evolution?

If you entertain this kind of thinking, there's no point believing ANYTHING he's said.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#19304: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:01:18 PM

His japanese bosses didn't have anything to do with either of those things.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#19305: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:01:58 PM

I'm not saying either of those is untrue. Just mentioning cultural differences. And I'd say those situations are a bit different from what we're talking about.

edited 18th Jun '15 5:02:24 PM by LSBK

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#19306: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:12:08 PM

I mean, Dragonball Evolution was by Westerners.

And frankly, fuck foreigners, am I right? They talk and look and think differently, so it's not like they're people.

...There's a not insignificant amount of xenophobia in Japanese culture. Look at Mr. Popo and Semi-Perfect Cell.

Being rude to the foreign company that bastardized your own ideas isn't something Japanese politeness would frown upon.

edited 18th Jun '15 5:22:56 PM by unnoun

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#19307: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:14:00 PM

To be fair, no one talks positively about Dragon Ball Evolution.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#19308: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:16:42 PM

Fox high ups probably do.

After all... the only explanation for it was that they were using it to launder money, since it was pretty much set up to fail as spectacularly as possible.

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#19309: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:21:52 PM

Really, even the Dragon Ball fans that have only seen Z have Evolution.

The fans that have seen the original Dragon Ball hate it even more.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#19310: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:24:08 PM

evolution was a sin.

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#19311: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:24:32 PM

Don't say that. That's an insult to sin.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#19312: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:26:21 PM

It's a movie that is not only bad as an adaptation, it's terribad as a movie in and of itself. It's cliché, tripe and overdone in every way.

Because it went out of its way to betray everything that could have connected it to Dragon Ball, it didn't have a shield from being called out on the Dragon Ball clichés.

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OmniGoat from New York, NY Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#19313: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:34:10 PM

Anyone else hoping Gohan gets stronger during Super?

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#19314: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:34:53 PM

I'm afraid I've got some bad news.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#19315: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:36:00 PM

What purpose is there in Gohan getting another power-up?

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#19316: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:36:54 PM

I don't get why people are underwhelmed by Gohan. With the Ultimate powerup he has the strongest base power of anyone, which barely even matters because he doesn't like to fight.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#19318: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:38:44 PM

To once again remind us that he'll just screw up again that he's his fathers son?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#19319: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:39:05 PM

[up][up][up]Because Gohan is boring. It's fine that he doesn't like fighting and it's great that he has a family and career on his own. But none of that is interesting to watch. Plus, most of his power ups never really amounted to anything except against Cell.

edited 18th Jun '15 5:39:23 PM by LSBK

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#19320: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:41:59 PM

The problem is, I think we're at a point where 'getting stronger' itself is hard to articulate other than saying 'they're getting a new form'. And I DON'T want there to be an overdose on new forms.

Actually, that's another thing I want Super to do. Tone down the new forms. It was getting repetitive in Cell, and downright tiresome by Buu. The new movies aren't helping, either.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#19321: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:43:39 PM

That and the Blueper Cyan is silly. Like, AF levels of silly.

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#19322: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:46:19 PM

I don't think it's fully reached AF levels - it's far too simple to be a fanfiction design, and its role in the movie is different to how usual powerups work. But it was still unnecessary.

I just want to know whose idea that was. Was it a corporate mandate? Because it feels like a corporate mandate. Like, they asked Toriyama to come up with a new form for Goku and Vegeta, so he did it in the most half-assed way possible.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#19323: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:48:59 PM

Nah, corporate mandate would've had them in different outfits to sell more toys, which is probably why the outfits are so different to norm.

Seriously, why are their outfits different? Their outfits were iconic of the characters, you can't change that shit.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#19324: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:49:45 PM

I don't have anything against new transformations, I just find both Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan unimpressive design wise.

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#19325: Jun 18th 2015 at 5:52:04 PM

I like Goku's new outfits

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