He was Toriyama's editor during the Namek arc. It was his advice that kept making Toriyama change the Cell Arc's villains, even though Toriyama wasn't working under him and wasn't obligated to follow his notes. Toriyama respects him that much.
He didn't like 19 and 20 because they're an old fart and a clown. Didn't like 17 and 18 because they're punk kids. Finally, he didn't like semi-perfect Cell because he looked dumb, so Toriyama rushed to Perfect Cell.
This is from memory. Hopefully Saiga corrects anything wrong I said.
"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."Kai's are a race in DBH now, and also SKOT is also there at the bottom.
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Now, how do they fight?
Also, the text here says "Bardock: Xeno (SSJ3)"
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edited 18th Jun '15 2:56:57 AM by Rinsankajugin
...oh, for gods sake...
Are they EVER going to run out of DBH card ideas? Ever?
The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!It's kind of funny. Torishima praising F was repeatedly brought up to counter being skeptical of the movies' news, and I never saw why that meant anything.
The more I see him comment on things, the more I think he's seriously overrated. To think, if 18 had gone to fight in place of Kuririn, Torishima might not have rated F so highly.
And the whole point of making Gohan a Super Saiyan was to train that way. Gohan asks if he's going to hold Goku back, and Goku admits he will at first, but once Gohan becomes a Super Saiyan he'll be a good sparring partner. Now that doesn't really make sense if training in base is the most effective method.
It also wouldn't make sense to see Vegeta training in Super Saiyan, or Gohan and Goten training together in Super Saiyan.
Guidebooks. The manga just has Gohan realize Goten and Trunks might leave him behind after finding out they spar together. But the guidebooks explain how sparring Super Saiyan to Super Saiyan is an extremely effective method, lining up with Goku's intentions and their insane progress compared to Vegeta and Trunks (who also mastered the form but did their second RoSaT trip separate).
Dragon Ball's filler is worked into the storyline to a surprising degree.
Also, even if she's filler, I really like Hasky if only for Laura Bailey pulling off an incredible British accent.
Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!Cruuherx: How much Akira respects him has nothing to do with whether we respect what he says or not.
I had a 9/11 conspiracy theorist as a teacher who a lot of my class and even my friends liked, didn't change the fact that I had fantasized about stabbing him in the eyes several times.
"Please crush me with your heels Esdeath-sama!Man, Bulma's a real bitch, isn't she? I think it's said somewhere that Yamcha ended up cheating on Bulma which ended the relationship but I can't really blame the guy.
Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!To be fair to the former editor, conquering the alien warlord that destroyed Goku's race is the most narratively significant and thematic place the series could end.
Except maybe for the following:
- Completed the Journey to the West parody.
- Defeated the Knight of Cerebus that made his recurring villains finally Not So Harmless.
- After finally solving the mystery of his origins, sacrificed his life to end the threat his people posed; his legacy carried on by his toddler son.
- The Dragon Balls are gone and many of our friends are dead, but his people will never threaten the Earth again.
- Sacrificed his life and had his legacy carried on by his son in order to defeat a fusion-monster of every great enemy he has ever faced in his long journey.
- The world is at peace, all of his friends are alive and doing well, Vegeta has finally made his peace and accepted redemption, and all is well.
So, obviously, if we ignore all other narratively strong possibilities for Dragon Ball's ending over the course of the story's run, then defeating Frieza is by far the best place the series could have ended.
It also wouldn't make sense to see Vegeta training in Super Saiyan, or Gohan and Goten training together in Super Saiyan.
Fair enough. I stand corrected.
Yes, she is. People who criticize the idea that Bulma and Vegeta end up together tend to ignore the fact that Bulma is no saint.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
To be fair you could sort of say that Cell and Buu seem kind of post-script, since Frieza resolves the mystery of who Goku is and where he came from, but I still enjoyed their arcs.
No, Raditz resolves that mystery. Frieza was stapled onto the franchise to escalate the threat level of Vegeta's plotline in much the same way that Cell was stapled onto the franchise to escalate the threat level of the Red Ribbon Army plotline.
I'm of the opinion that, in general, the Android Saga did a much poorer job of it than Frieza, but it would be disingenuous to say that Frieza was necessary. The mystery of Goku's origins could easily have ended at, "One of the last vestiges of alien conquerors whose planet was smashed by a rock," and then if Krillin hadn't been kept from killing Vegeta, bam. Show's over, intergalactic threat is resolved, bittersweet ending.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Dragon Ball ended very well three times.
Piccolo Jr. was a great place to end the series. Goku's defeated Piccolo who Came Back Strong, was offered the position of God, got married and finally crowned himself World Champion, effectively making him the strongest person in the world.
This is why people are so quick on separating Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z even though they're the same series. It's very easy to consider everything after Piccolo to be a sequel series, even in the manga in which the distinction isn't made at all... At least in the Spanish version, anyway, dunno about the one in the USA.
Anyway, then Dragon Ball Z ends on another high note. Goku has destroyed a primordial force of evil using the Spirit Bomb, with the help from all the people of Earth. Vegeta's character arc is complete and he's finally become a 'good person'. And then, for an epilogue, Goku finally has an heir who will follow in his footsteps to become protector of Earth, And the Adventure Continues.
And finally... GT ended very well, too. Goku defeated his most useful ally turned enemy, utilizing the Spirit Bomb once more, this time charged with the energy of all those whom he met in his travels across the universe. He has one final trip around the world and has one last spar with his first brother in arms, after which he departs with Shenron. Then, for an epilogue, Goku's descendant in the far future finds the Four Star Dragonball when he's desperate for a wish and Goku appears to him to give him spiritual guidance, And the Adventure Continues.
edited 18th Jun '15 10:24:04 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariNarratively, Buu's actually one of the weaker options for ending it, in my opinion. I mean, I love the Buu arc to death, but Majin Buu doesn't have the narrative strength or continuity of storytelling that the rest of the series does.
- Dragon Ball started treating its conflicts seriously with the introduction of Tao Pai Pai during Goku's conflict with the Red Ribbon Army.
- Tao Pai Pai led directly to the conflict with the Tsuru students Tien and Chiaotzu, appearing at the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai to avenge their idol.
- Piccolo Daimao came about as a product of Goku's long-running conflict with Gag Villain Pilaf, who bit off more than he could chew in an effort to finally get one over on Goku.
- The 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai's primary conflict then emerged from the reincarnation of Piccolo returning for a second round.
- After that, Raditz approached the series from a new direction, exploring the origins of Goku - a mystery that has long stood in the series ever since the little Monkey King popped up in the first episode with his mysterious tail and unrelenting strength.
- Raditz's death snowballed directly into Vegeta and Nappa, whose search for the Dragon Balls and slaughter of most of the protagonists prompted our heroes into direct conflict with
- Frieza, who brought the series focus back to the Dragon Balls and tied them in with the Saiyan storyline that had been building since Raditz's arrival.
- With that story behind them, the Androids and Cell resurrected the Red Ribbon Army plot thread by exploring the unanswered questions behind the construction of Android 8 and Sergeant Metallic.
- ...and then Buu just kind of happened. The Buu arc was sort of a hodgepodge of just throwing new ideas at the wall and seeing which ones stick. It could have easily been a new IP entirely, as it had very little connection with the stories that came before it. Kaioshin shows up out of nowhere to go, "This is a cool tournament you're having, but I'm the protagonist of this awesome show that has nothing to do with yours, and I'm not up to snuff for defeating my villain, so can your awesome characters come fight him for me?"
edited 18th Jun '15 10:31:58 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.You're just thinking of Buu as the antagonist, but that's not the only thing that the Buu arc had going for it.
It has the final completion of Vegeta's character arc, possibly the longest one in the entire series.
It has a technique that failed not once but twice before make a comeback and end the final battle, one that Goku learned long before all the new Transformations and all that stuff.
It has Gohan finally realizing his true potential and becoming the greatest warrior he could be. (Unfortunately he still sucks)
And more importantly, it finally has Goku getting an heir that doesn't suck.
In essence, yeah, Buu was some kind of out of nowhere baddie they had to fight, but the thing is, I don't think Majin Buu itself is the real reason why the arc needs to exist.
edited 18th Jun '15 10:31:32 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

I dunno. I did really like the Freeza saga, but I also loved the Cell and Majin Buu sagas, as well. They introduced a whole bunch of stuff that I really love. Future Trunks and time travel! Villains that come from Earth! Character development for Vegeta! Cell's introduction making the story suddenly turn into a horror movie! Actually following up on Gohan's 'hidden potential' in the most dramatic way possible!
And then Majin Buu...well, there was as much worldbuilding in those few Great Saiyaman chapters than the entirety of Namek. It definitely made the DB universe feel more believable.
edited 17th Jun '15 7:44:03 PM by LOLypop1224
The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!