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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#18426: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:02:20 PM

The old men punching is my second-favorite part of the game.

My first favorite being the giant robot fight.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#18427: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:09:05 PM

All the Latin versions of the Dragon Ball Openings and Endings are, imo, pretty damn great.

It helps that, unlike a certain series I can name, they let those stick around for a long enough time that they actually became genuinelly iconic of the series, instead of being one amongst twenty or more.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
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#18428: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:28:27 PM

I'd like to take this opportunity to marvel at how Dragonball manages to capture the imaginations of so many people from different walks of life around the world. I enjoy reading about your Latin American experiences because they're so different from my memories of dragonball , yet it's about the same source material.

Bravo, Toriyama. Bravo.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18429: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:30:16 PM

DB definitely seems to have the most staying power of the major fighting shonen. In the West at least the popularity of all the "Big Three" seems to be on the wane.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#18430: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:30:33 PM

[up][up]...It's not that special.

I mean, the same is true of basically any anime, for starters.

And, also, I don't think Toriyama had a lot to do with the Latin American or Funimation dubs of GT, so.

edited 6th Jun '15 7:35:02 PM by unnoun

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#18431: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:30:51 PM

Yeah, I REALLY hope Super sticks with one opening. At least for a while. I love Leitmotifs. It's great when you have one song that is the theme for the entire series.

Although, One Piece still has that, doesn't it? At least, I've heard instrumental versions of We Are in the OST. (But I'm not very far into it).

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#18432: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:33:08 PM

No, One Piece changes its openings quite often. We Are just stands out among them. I'm not even sure if they're still using that opening.

Oops, I confused that with We Go, which is more recent. I'm pretty sure We Are has fallen entirely out of usage except for homages.

edited 6th Jun '15 7:34:09 PM by Saiga

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#18433: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:34:35 PM

I don't have an issue with changing openings.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#18434: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:34:47 PM

[up][up][up][up] Bleach and One Piece (especially Bleach) are nowhere near as popular as they once were (especially in the West) while Dragon Ball is still absurdly popular even after all this time. It is that special. Also, they were talking about the source material, not the adaptions.

edited 6th Jun '15 7:35:17 PM by Zelenal

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#18435: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:35:46 PM

Also, I seem to have had different experiences with this series than anyone else here, and I just get derided for it.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18436: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:37:21 PM

[up] I think your interpretations are pretty cool, at least. I like that blog you always link to.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#18437: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:38:35 PM

[up][up][up] One Piece was never really that popular in the west, even before it lost popularity.

edited 6th Jun '15 7:39:05 PM by Saiga

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#18438: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:39:17 PM

I also find Dragonball's popularity incredible. Naruto and Bleach don't have the western fanbase they once did, and One Piece was never all that popular in the west to begin with.

edited 6th Jun '15 7:39:56 PM by VeryMelon

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#18439: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:41:36 PM

Dragon Ball is a classic. People have nostalgia for it and it's easily accessible to anyone who wants to get into manga or anime.

I'd think Naruto has a similar status in the West (or at least the US), whatever you define that as.

edited 6th Jun '15 7:41:50 PM by LSBK

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#18440: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:43:01 PM

Then again, the series to have started after Naruto/Bleach/One Piece never reached their popularity, either. I feel western interest in shonen manga peaked with those three and then declined. Older series avoided the decline in interest and newer series didn't even have a chance to gain the interest before it went away.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#18441: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:46:35 PM

I think it's interesting that, while Vegeta tells Trunks to get ready to go out, we don't actually see their trip to the park.

Like, Trunks treats Vegeta so normally in the Buu saga. Isn't scared of him at all.

It seems like they've trained together, but not enough for Vegeta to know Trunks could go Super Saiyan.

Vegeta seems honestly surprised when he hits Trunks back on instinct.

...And, most importantly of all, Vegeta watched infomercials about bargain sales.

I want to know what Vegeta watches on TV.

Why don't more people ask these questions?

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18442: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:46:53 PM

[up][up] I think there's a lot of reasons why the popularity of shonen has declined:

  • Most of the shonen that got really popular outside Japan premiered in one big "boom" in the early '00s, and most of those are over now and nothing's really filled the gap.
  • There's increasing Values Dissonance between Japan and not-Japan, particularly with regards to "otaku culture" which Japan increasingly embraces but other countries are increasingly creeped out by.
  • The target demographic that was just the right age during the aforementioned "boom" has since aged out.
  • People are getting sick of the pacing style of really long shonen like Naruto and OP; a lot of shorter anime are still popular.

edited 6th Jun '15 7:47:09 PM by HamburgerTime

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#18443: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:49:21 PM

I mean, Toriyama had an answer about how Vegeta learned about bargain sales.

It actually made sense too, because the idea of the richest people on the planet going to a bargain sale is ridiculous.

But not quite as ridiculous as imagining Vegeta sitting on a couch watching TV.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18444: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:50:22 PM

[up] I love that Vegeta's such a normal dad. A bit of a "martial arts dad" but normal nonetheless.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#18445: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:51:30 PM

[up][up][up] Yeah, I agree with there being a boom. But I think there have been series that could have filled the gap, and understanding why they weren't accepted by western fans is a little harder to understand.

I do find it fascinating, though. I wonder where I could read up more about it.

edited 6th Jun '15 7:52:24 PM by Saiga

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#18446: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:51:41 PM

[up][up]It's a side of Vegeta that we see just barely enough of to get the idea that it's there.

...Which, quite frankly, I think might be deliberate on Vegeta's part. Because of course he'd want to do a lot of posturing around Gohan and Goku. He doesn't want anyone but his family to think he actually has feelings.

Especially not his rival and his rival's son.

Yamcha imitating Vegeta.

edited 6th Jun '15 7:58:14 PM by unnoun

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#18447: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:56:24 PM

Huh. So Beerus was the one to seal the Elder Kaioushin inside the Z Sword. Neat.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18448: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:56:26 PM

[up][up] And really, since martial arts is the dominant sport in DB-Land, there's really no difference between Vegeta and your typical soccer or basketball dad.

edited 6th Jun '15 7:56:32 PM by HamburgerTime

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#18449: Jun 6th 2015 at 7:58:20 PM

...hmmmm.

I keep thinking that Kid Trunks feels almost way too realistic, because he reminds me of my little cousins.

Perhaps Vegeta and Bulma's family life isn't that unusual, after all. And that's why Trunks acts like such a normal (albeit bratty) kid.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
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#18450: Jun 6th 2015 at 8:00:07 PM

But not so dominant that people don't recognize Goku, former tournament winner and SAVIOR OF THE WORLD on sight.

And again, I say, in a world where there is visual, factual proof that Martial Arts give you super powers, it's weird how normal the rest of the DBZ world is, aside from like, a ten percent anthropomorphic animal population.

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