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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#18228: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:07:36 PM

I will say that after the shift to the "Z" period, Goku doesn't really develop all that much. Most of the actual character stuff goes to Vegeta, Krillin, Gohan, and Piccolo, with Goku often being out of the picture for a significant portion of a given arc before showing up to whoop the bad guys. In that sense Goku can be seen as less of a character and more like a walking Deus ex Machina.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#18229: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:11:16 PM

I still can't believe Toriyama was actually going to retire Goku for good. I still can't believe the fight with Cell ended the way it did.

I mean, goddamn, you'd never see a long-running Shonen do something like that today. It's just so ballsy.

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#18230: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:14:15 PM

You don't see any other long running shounen series with as many time skips as Dragon Ball either.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18231: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:19:20 PM

I doubt we'll ever see another shonen where the main character is a grandfather and still in fighting shape by the end again.

Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
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#18232: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:22:13 PM

Wonder how things would had turned out if Goku stayed dead after the Cell arc? You know, like how Toriyama wanted to make the series.

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#18233: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:31:08 PM

I'm pretty sure Toriyama decided to bring Goku back. I don't think he was pressured to do it.

But I think it's still partially his fault for making Ultimate Gohan feel really unsatisfying, even as he was beating up Buu.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#18234: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:34:31 PM

Yes, it was his decision to bring back Goku. It was still his original intent to keep Goku dead, but he just changed his mind.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18235: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:35:24 PM

I honestly liked the high school drama angle and wonder where Toriyama was going with that.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#18236: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:36:53 PM

Me too. It was so unlike anything we'd seen before, but...I wanted more of it. There's a reason that section is one of the parts I have the manga of.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18237: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:44:19 PM

I get the feeling Toriyama wasn't sure what he wanted the early Buu saga to be. We go through high school drama, Henshin Hero, and Tournament Arc all very quickly before finally settling on... basically the same old formula.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#18238: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:58:28 PM

I actually kinda wanna see a spinoff set in Gohan's school years, after the Buu saga but before Battle of Gods, as both he and Videl do the Saiyaman stuff together and try to keep it secret.

Also Videl has to fend off papparazzi who claim she's dating Saiyaman and cheating on him with Gohan.

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#18239: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:59:44 PM

Does Gohan end up getting approached by people who think he's dating Saiyawoman/Great Saiyaman 2 but is cheating on her with Videl?

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#18240: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:09:16 PM

Does Mr. Buu pick up Videl from school when Hercule is busy?

I mean, Videl has a helicopter and can fly, so that'd be completely unnecessary.

I also think it'd be funny.

I sorta want to know what the paparazzi would think about Mr. Buu, and why nobody on the planet can remember anything about him from before he started living with the Satan family.

...I mean, do they he's Mr. Satan's boyfriend or something?

edited 4th Jun '15 8:25:39 PM by unnoun

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#18241: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:25:19 PM

One thing I loved that Toriyama expanded on in the Buu Saga was the whole "the Z Fighters as a global conspiracy" thing. It's actually crazy the amount of stuff Bulma would have to do to keep them a secret.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#18242: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:26:04 PM

She practically owns the planet.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#18243: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:29:06 PM

One thing I loved that Toriyama expanded on in the Buu Saga was the whole "the Z Fighters as a global conspiracy" thing. It's actually crazy the amount of stuff Bulma would have to do to keep them a secret.

......

What? When was it hinted that they were a global conspiracy or anything? I mean, most people didn't know what happened because the Cameras went off and Satan took the credit. The Z-Warriors weren't making much of an effort to hide themselves really.

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Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
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#18244: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:30:32 PM

Capsule Corp. could probably buy whatever government exists in the DB earth.

And from what I remember, there are no countries. Just earth and "King of ZA WARUDO the World" from what I remember from the (King) Piccolo arc in the manga.

And he was a dog.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18245: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:32:20 PM

An actually fairly pleasant dog, one of the few benevolent examples of a One World Government I've seen.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
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#18247: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:42:03 PM

It's just that, by the Buu Saga, they pretty much have to keep the truth a secret or Mr. Satan's entire empire would crumble. And after Majin Buu, it got even bigger, because Mr. Satan got involved in it.

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#18248: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:43:40 PM

Isn't it implied in the finale that they all regularly get kickbacks from Marky Mark in echange for letting him maintain the masquerade?

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#18249: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:45:33 PM

They really don't put any effort towards maintaining The Masquerade, they just let Hercule reap the benefits of it because they don't care.

Literally, Goku or Vegeta could have a fight in the middle of the city and not give a shit if people saw them.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#18250: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:48:36 PM

Don't be silly.

They'd never fight in a city.

Too many people to get in their way.

They'd take their fight to a deserted wasteland, you know, some place a little less... corpsy.

Also, fuck the random number generator. Even patched it's a piece of shit.

edited 4th Jun '15 8:50:30 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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