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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#17876: Jun 1st 2015 at 4:56:07 PM

So when Dragon Ball Super comes out, should there be a new thread for it?

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#17877: Jun 1st 2015 at 5:00:46 PM

Nah. Just rename this to Dragon Ball General Thread.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#17878: Jun 1st 2015 at 6:26:08 PM

... Or, don't.

'cause there's no reason to.

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#17879: Jun 1st 2015 at 6:59:38 PM

It's not like we have a separate thread for Z or GT.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#17880: Jun 1st 2015 at 7:19:26 PM

And other Manga/ threads cover discussions for anime/movies/games.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#17881: Jun 2nd 2015 at 7:55:20 AM

How useful do y'all think the Multi-Form transformation is?

Sure, it makes you attack in multiple places at once, but it splits up your power level between each physical body. Would being able to cover a larger area be worth the power split?

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#17882: Jun 2nd 2015 at 8:22:22 AM

And even if we made a designated Dragon Ball Super thread, the conversation would bleed over here anyway. For proof, see the blurry lines between this thread and the Abridged. Both TFS and the actual manga and animes get discussed frequently in both.

[up] It is entirely useless. It was a cool gimmick with intense flaws that Goku identified in the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, the same arc where it was introduced. It was never used again outside filler, because it's a terrible technique.

The best that can be said for the Multi-Form technique is that it allowed Tien to be a Puzzle Boss for a brief period of his character history after his ability to be a straightforward physical challenge had already been obsoleted.

edited 2nd Jun '15 8:24:25 AM by TobiasDrake

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#17883: Jun 2nd 2015 at 8:55:39 AM

Wait, the Cell thing was a filler? Damn.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#17884: Jun 2nd 2015 at 9:08:00 AM

Which Cell thing? Cell fighting Krillin on the plane, or Hercule getting slapped by Cell?

Speaking of which, if the latter didn't happen in the manga, then what did happen?

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#17886: Jun 2nd 2015 at 9:25:43 AM

Ah.

Well, there's probably bunch of memorable scenes from the anime that weren't in the original, like Krillin throwing that rock at Goku.

One of these days I really need to sit myself down and watch Kai.

edited 2nd Jun '15 9:27:48 AM by Soble

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#17887: Jun 2nd 2015 at 9:50:00 AM

The Multi Form technique is useful, though.

I mean, it allows you to do multiple chores at once! And train by sparring with yourself! And also, if you've got multiple opponents that you need defeated at the same time and you're powerful enough to do it after the power split, it's useful for that too.

It's got plenty of uses.

Fighting a stronger opponent is not one of them.

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#17888: Jun 2nd 2015 at 9:55:03 AM

[up] That's fair.

As long as your battle power is not relevant to the task you are attempting to perform, it is fine.

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#17889: Jun 2nd 2015 at 9:58:26 AM

It can also be hella useful for synchronized dancing and swimming.

And there's also the... kinkier uses of the multiform technique.

Or becoming a human orchestra.

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#17890: Jun 2nd 2015 at 9:59:17 AM

Meanwhile, in an alternate universe, Yamcha learned the Multi-Form technique and became an entire boy band.

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#17891: Jun 2nd 2015 at 10:02:47 AM

Or an entire Baseball team.

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#17892: Jun 2nd 2015 at 10:30:17 AM

They'd still suck.

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#17894: Jun 2nd 2015 at 10:43:36 AM

17 and 18 being able to get stronger makes perfect sense since they still have human parts. It's just, why bother? At best their human parts' max power is Krillin-level, and adding that to what their android parts have is pretty much the same as pouring out your average old bottle of water into an ocean.

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#17895: Jun 2nd 2015 at 10:58:35 AM

Goku seen through the Multiform technique after one clash and then simply defeated Ten with easy.

In Dragon Ball a lone powerhouse will always be better than multiple weaker fighters even if their cumulative power level is equal to his. Multiform technique runs directly opposite to that logic making it probably the least effective technique in the series - I at least can't think of any other that would make someone easier to defeat for using it.

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#17896: Jun 2nd 2015 at 11:41:28 AM

Yeah, unless you had a way to compensate for the power loss, or were so strong it didn't matter, multiform is useless.

17 and 18 being able to get stronger makes perfect sense since they still have human parts. It's just, why bother? At best their human parts' max power is Krillin-level, and adding that to what their android parts have is pretty much the same as pouring out your average old bottle of water into an ocean.

I don't know. If it's possible for their human power to add on to their android power, even a tiny increase might be useful. Of course neither one cares to train, so it's a moot point. 17 is likely too lazy, and 18 is a woman who needs to stay home and protect the kids even though she's stronger, and I'm ashamed of myself for trying to defend that bullshit, but I desperately wanted to find a justification for it that wasn't needlessly sexist and fucking BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!! probably isn't interested in training either though she did at least learn the Kienzan.

So, anyone notice all we do is rip on the human characters for being worthless, and how all their techniques have no value whatsoever.

Whenever someone says hey, this thing is pretty cool someone else feels obligated to point out why said thing has absolutely no value and should be treated as shit.

I'm wondering if we're all getting too cynical.

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#17897: Jun 2nd 2015 at 11:50:30 AM

I really hate how any woman who stays out of combat because she just doesn't care for it instantly results in the author being labeled sexist.

Also, the Solar Flare is a human technique and I don't think anyone doubts its usefulness.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#17898: Jun 2nd 2015 at 11:57:42 AM

It's not about her staying out of combat because she doesn't want to fight.

If she doesn't want to fight, that's ok.

It's about her being pushed out of combat by her husband (though the writers make him do it) even though she's stronger than he is and ordered to protect the kids when it makes no damn sense.

Unless she flat out says she's not interested in fighting, I don't get it.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17899: Jun 2nd 2015 at 12:05:21 PM

Fictional characters can't "want" anything. Because they're fictional.

Every "decision" they make is at the behest of the author.

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#17900: Jun 2nd 2015 at 12:06:45 PM

It's also about the gender distribution as a whole.

Dragon Ball has four prominent female characters: Bulma, Chi-Chi, Lunch, and Android 18. Bulma has always had much to contribute but was never a combatant, Chi-Chi's main contribution to combat was losing a fight to Goku and then birthing two sons, Lunch was a one-note gag character, and 18 floored Vegeta, breaking his arms in the process.

When the one and only prominent female combatant in the entire franchise - a cast of dozens of male fighters, mind you - is explicitly kicked out of a fight because she needs to Stay in the Kitchen while her significantly weaker husband competes in her place, that carries some pretty strong messages about the writer's opinion of women.

edited 2nd Jun '15 12:08:31 PM by TobiasDrake

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