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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#17651: May 28th 2015 at 4:12:58 PM

Not when that god could totally destroy our entire solar system on the subatomic level if you piss them off.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17652: May 28th 2015 at 4:13:51 PM

The moral victory would be mine.

Killing people weaker than you just because disagree with you is the surest sign of a coward and a tyrant.

Works of art need an audience more than they need an author.

We don't need our gods. They need us.

edited 28th May '15 4:33:24 PM by unnoun

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#17653: May 28th 2015 at 4:32:42 PM

The "moral" victory may be yours but that still makes you a dead idiot.

Or, in other words: Congratulations. Your stupidity killed everyone in our solar system. I hope you feel good about yourself.

edited 28th May '15 4:33:00 PM by Zelenal

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#17654: May 28th 2015 at 4:32:54 PM

The moral highground doesn't do much when the other guy can blow up the hill you're standing on.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17655: May 28th 2015 at 4:37:16 PM

I think if I had majored in the social sciences I could probably write a thesis on the undercurrent of fascism present in anime fandom.

Oh who am I kidding. It's not just anime fandom.

I honestly have to say there aren't a lot of other places where I get defenses of using force to crush opposition. Where someone is in the right and shouldn't be questioned just because they can blow more things up.

Honestly, the past few pages of this thread have scared me. A lot.

edited 28th May '15 4:47:50 PM by unnoun

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#17656: May 28th 2015 at 4:49:40 PM

The moral highground doesn't do much when the other guy can blow up the hill you're standing on.

......

~Runs in and clubs IANCE~

This quote is mine now! nobody else said it first! And this dude on the floor is just sleeping.

~Runs off, leaving IANCE unconscious~

Sorry man, but that was a really good quote. I had to steal it.

One Strip! One Strip!
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#17657: May 28th 2015 at 4:50:31 PM

Which is why I stole it five minutes before it was posted.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#17658: May 28th 2015 at 4:51:54 PM

~Looks and sees the quote isn't even there~

Well shit.

I just murdered someone for nothing.

Thanks a lot Mage! You could have told me that sooner.

Anyway, any thoughts on my Devilmite Beam / Time Freeze combo?

One Strip! One Strip!
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17659: May 28th 2015 at 4:55:56 PM

Hint: the space dictator is supposed to be the bad guy.

In case somebody was confused.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#17660: May 28th 2015 at 5:01:32 PM

[up][up] Well you need to stop whipping it out everytime you need to get something done, Rob.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17661: May 28th 2015 at 5:03:15 PM

You could have at least bought him dinner. And established consent beforehand.

I am so disappointed in you Rob.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#17662: May 28th 2015 at 5:06:18 PM

[up](x4)It tickles me that they used that song in the ROF trailer.

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#17663: May 28th 2015 at 5:07:59 PM

[up][up] And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you kill a joke.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#17664: May 28th 2015 at 5:10:05 PM

Opposing death of the author or literary critics isn't anti-intellectualism. If we're going to talk about non-sequiturs that's a big one.

@Tobias I am fully aware of some how fans typically use it.

But I am also aware that is a misuse of it.

We don't know the main continuity. There's nothing official that makes it clear. The statement that F. Trunks being part of main continuity and Broli not being so is nothing but fan interpretation and it's not universally agreed on either.

Even the "easy" example is pretty divided upon fans. And it sure gets a lot murkier than that.

The fact that canon doesn't have an "official" definition that fits is extremely important, because fans don't all define it the same way. What you just defined is only what one subset of fans see it as.

We can't determine what's canon because we can't determine what it even means.

As for BOG vs GT... well, the most recent timeline places them together. We do not have official confirmation that GT is non-canon, and no fan has the right to decide what another fan should see it as.

edited 28th May '15 5:14:58 PM by Saiga

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17665: May 28th 2015 at 5:11:51 PM

[up]Literary criticism is a field of academic study. An old one, in fact. Death of the author is one of the concepts taught in that field. Dismissing them both out of hand, by definition, is anti-intellectualism.

[up][up] It needed to be put down.

edited 28th May '15 5:17:08 PM by unnoun

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#17666: May 28th 2015 at 5:17:11 PM

Being opposed to one field of academic study is not even remotely the same as opposing intellectualism.

Nit does it have anything to do with school funding.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17667: May 28th 2015 at 5:19:22 PM

It has everything to do with school funding.

Because everybody wants grants. And the best way to get them is to discredit everybody else.

I am frankly sick of the competition and bullshit between STEM fields and the Humanities.

So, yes, opposing one field of academic study is very much the same thing as being anti-intellectualism. Because it's saying that only certain kinds of knowledge and certain kinds of training count. Just like when Creationists think their (false) knowledge of the bible trumps any amount of science you can throw at them. The same arguments get used no matter how you slice it.

If I don't want someone to discredit me for talking about the study of evolutionary theory, I shouldn't discredit someone talking about models of Global Climate Change, and they shouldn't discredit someone talking about the symbolic meaning of Scrooge Mc Duck comics.

It's that simple. Scholars shouldn't be dicks to other scholars. Opposing one discipline does harm to all.

It seems like, with evolution, global climate change and postmodernism, people that are too thick to understand it think that it doesn't make sense, and often blame the people that do understand it.

For some reason Quantum Physics gets to avoid that though.

edited 28th May '15 5:44:50 PM by unnoun

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#17668: May 28th 2015 at 5:24:27 PM

Going back to alternate story lines for different characters, I've heard there's a video game where Krillin and 18 asplode Frieza with The Power of Love. What game was that, because that sounds awesome.

edited 28th May '15 5:28:29 PM by HamburgerTime

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#17669: May 28th 2015 at 5:34:46 PM

[up] Th-there is? I've never heard of this either. I must play this game, whatever it is.

Even if 18 could esplode Freeza without it.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#17670: May 28th 2015 at 5:35:33 PM

[up] Frieza got stronger training in Hell or something, IIRC.

edited 28th May '15 5:35:39 PM by HamburgerTime

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#17671: May 28th 2015 at 5:42:44 PM

If I was going to be serious about the topic, I'd say moral high ground in the face of annihilation is not moral at all and it has nothing to do with me having a "Fascist" mindset.

You see, matter and energy cannot be destroyed, only transferred. You're not accomplishing anything of any morality by throwing your life away, just making it more likely the matter and energy that makes up your being will be recycled into something the very power structure you despise can mold to its liking. Unless your death somehow helps or inspires someone who can/will fight a powerful authority, the most moral thing you can do is stay alive until you find a way to effectively stand for your beliefs. That's especially true in Dragon Ball, where reincarnation is as real as the water cycle. Or maybe not since some people get to keep their body if they lived "righteously" enough, it's hard to relate anything to a setting with such a loose take on death, which is why I try not to apply many serious topic to it.

Pertaining to Dragon Ball, I'm more annoyed my previous post was ignored. No one thinks sea monsters, giant women and invading social insects would make good villains? Not even the garuda, drones or carnivorous trees? That's never a good sign in a fighting series fandom.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#17672: May 28th 2015 at 5:44:23 PM

[up]I'm interested in seeing those.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17673: May 28th 2015 at 5:45:09 PM

Haven't we already done all of those?

I mean, Cell was social enough to talk.

edited 28th May '15 5:47:21 PM by unnoun

IndirectActiveTransport plays capoeira from Chicago (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
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#17674: May 28th 2015 at 5:54:11 PM

Outside of the Juniors, cell wasn't even close. I mean something like Termites or Ants. (Not so much a bug war but Piccolo doing pest control on pests who could cause an Earth-Shattering Kaboom if he takes too long).

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17675: May 28th 2015 at 5:54:39 PM

No, see, it was a double meaning on the word social, and.


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