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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#17501: May 26th 2015 at 1:56:49 AM

So, Dr. Slump takes place in 1980, and DB takes place 4 years after that. I know DB uses "Ages" in place of normal years, but if we were to convert everything into a normal timeline, then that means:

  • 1666: Master Roshi was born
  • 1972: Planet Vegeta is destroyed
  • 1974: Goku lands on Earth/Jaco Saga
  • 1984: Pilaf Saga
  • 1985: 21st Tournament/Red Ribbon Saga/Fortuneteller Baba Saga
  • 1988: 22nd Tournament/Tien Saga/King Piccolo Saga
  • 1991: 23rd Tournament/Piccolo Jr. Saga
  • 1996: Raditz arrives on Earth
  • 1997: Vegeta and Nappa arrive on Earth/Frieza Saga
  • 1998: Trunks warns of the Androids
  • 2001: Cell Saga
  • 2008: 25th Tournament/Majin Buu Saga
  • 2010: Tarble and Gure arrive/Abo and Kado attack
  • 2012: Beerus and Whis arrive
  • 2013: Frieza returns
  • 2018: 28th Tournament/Goku leaves with Uub

Things feel weird with real world years...

edited 26th May '15 2:00:28 AM by Rinsankajugin

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#17502: May 26th 2015 at 2:27:42 AM

Those tournaments sure are random.

JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#17503: May 26th 2015 at 3:38:04 AM

Buu arrives 10 full years after Future Trunks? Dang, time flies.

Seeing as I watched Dragon Ball in the late nineties, the timeline for the Freeza&Cell sagas makes sense to me. Buu arriving in 2008 is when it gets weird (since that's the arc I most associate with the late 90s).

GT always felt more millennial, but it probably would take place in the 2020s... Oh boy!

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17504: May 26th 2015 at 5:07:37 AM

Isn't Frieza's line about Goku looking like Bardock in the manga?

So how is that more consistent with Dragon Ball Minus as opposed to the TV Special?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#17505: May 26th 2015 at 5:38:19 AM

What are you responding to, unnoun?

To answer your question, the manga has both Raditz and Freeza say Goku looks like Bardock, though neither refer to Bardock by his name.

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#17506: May 26th 2015 at 8:08:25 AM

Put me down for also saying Beerus has a fantastic visual design.

Beerus's design is just so unconventional, I love it! People spend too much time working out whether a design is 'badass' enough to be popular, but I don't think Toriyama gives a crap about it.

Quite. If Toriyama was overly concerned about rewarding characters for being super badass, Vegeta wouldn't be a punching bag.

Those tournaments sure are random.

There's a space of three years between tournaments, up until a murderous demon hijacked the tournament and blew up the stadium, endangering participants and spectators alike. That kind of thing makes it very difficult to attract investors.

edited 26th May '15 8:10:25 AM by TobiasDrake

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#17507: May 26th 2015 at 8:42:03 AM

[up] Bah.Bunch of scaredycats.

Speaking of that,some people might've died twice from Vegeta's little showoff.That jerk.They will be missed.

Wait,they'd be revived by the Namekian ones anyway.Unless it was only about Buu victims.

edited 26th May '15 8:43:47 AM by alekos23

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17508: May 26th 2015 at 9:58:15 AM

The wish was specifically for every good person that died since the start of the tournament.

Specifically because Vegeta wanted to resurrect his own victims.

edited 26th May '15 9:58:23 AM by unnoun

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#17509: May 26th 2015 at 10:01:58 AM

They were all jerks anyway, so they're all still dead.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17510: May 26th 2015 at 10:05:07 AM

Well, at least he tried. Which makes him a good person. And is the reason that wish brought him back.

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#17511: May 26th 2015 at 10:13:51 AM

Wait, no, Vegeta's not an Uchiha, he can do evil things without the plot pretending he's a saint.

So there were probably a couple of non-dicks in the crowd.

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#17512: May 26th 2015 at 10:14:44 AM

Vegeta's victims were already revived by Bulma.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#17513: May 26th 2015 at 10:22:39 AM

Which was by the Earth ones,so any loyal fans of the thing are probably perma-dead.

Eh,it was like 17 years.If they were 20 back then,they died at the ripe old age of 37.

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#17514: May 26th 2015 at 10:29:10 AM

Hmm, I'm trying to remember the modifications Dende made.

I'm pretty sure he did not give Shenron's Balls the ability to revive people multiple times. He retained their mass revival potential and added a second wish to them, but Shenron's Balls still only had the ability to pour life back into a body the one time. That was a factor in Goku's refusal of his resurrection; Shenron couldn't do it anyway and while they could go get Porunga, Goku was just like, "Nah, not worth it."

Which means that, unless there's something I'm forgetting, anyone killed by Cell's rampage who had the misfortune of also being in that section of the Tenkaichi Budokai stadium that Vegeta blasted isn't coming back. That probably isn't much of an overlap. Like, maybe 10 people, tops.

Nobody else overlaps either, because Cell was the first time they actually did the "Revive everyone who died this arc" thing on Earth. Frieza was the first time they ever did it, and all of his victims were on Namek.

EDIT: Wait, no, that's wrong, victims of Piccolo Daimao and his sons overlap. I forgot they did it there. That's still not a lot of folks, though. They weren't nearly as indiscriminate as later villains. Most of their victims were deliberately targeted individuals.

edited 26th May '15 10:33:36 AM by TobiasDrake

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#17515: May 26th 2015 at 11:29:22 AM

I don't dislike Bills so much as I dislike where Bills and Super Saiyan God were introduced on the timeline. As said, it retroactively makes Uub obsolete upon arrival.

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#17516: May 26th 2015 at 11:36:07 AM

Uub was able to injure Base Goku at the end of the series. If this is still following that ending then Uub isn't as obsolete as you believe.

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#17517: May 26th 2015 at 11:54:41 AM

Then that makes Uub's power a touch on the absurd side depending upon how much stronger Goku's Base form is now. Of course, if Goku's Base form isn't that much stronger than Uub is still worthless. Even if it is, Uub is still worthless so long as Goku and/or Vegeta are in fighting condition.

Also, the fuck is up with the name Bills? I saw some people use it before we got an official name for him but why use it now? It makes absolutely no sense given Toriyama's naming convention.

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#17519: May 26th 2015 at 12:01:24 PM

wild mass guessUub trained for four months before the World Martial Arts Tournament.wild mass guess

Also I use Bills because in Spanish it is Bills.

edited 26th May '15 12:02:16 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#17520: May 26th 2015 at 12:01:46 PM

Well Goku's base from is now called Saiyan beyond God. Goku can now use his God power in base form.

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#17521: May 26th 2015 at 12:08:38 PM

[up][up] Is the pun intact?

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#17522: May 26th 2015 at 12:19:16 PM

Uub was always obsolete on arrival. This doesn't change anything.

Being able to injure Base Goku is a meaningless gesture because that just means he's roughly 1/400th of Goku's maximum power. Even after Toriyama declared no more Super Saiyan forms beyond 1, that still put Uub equal to a mere 2% of Goku's strength. Power-wise, Uub was to Goku what Vegeta was to Frieza.

If anything, putting more emphasis on powering up Goku's base form only makes Uub's feat more impressive. If all of Goku's power is in his Base form now, then being able to injure his Base actually means something.

edited 26th May '15 12:20:29 PM by TobiasDrake

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#17523: May 26th 2015 at 12:25:44 PM

Right, that's the point I was making.

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#17524: May 26th 2015 at 12:29:36 PM

@Zelenal, this article answers your question in detail.

edited 26th May '15 12:29:48 PM by Cruherrx

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#17525: May 26th 2015 at 12:30:35 PM

Right.

Majin Buu was so powerful that 400 Gokus were insufficient to overcome him. By comparison, we should be pleased at the implication that Uub is NOT, in fact, weaker than Frieza.

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