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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17426: May 23rd 2015 at 10:44:26 PM

[up][up]Yes.

I imagine it'd be a cannibalization of Android 19's energy thingies and also Bulma's normal time travel tech she can invent with the right motivation using subpar materials.

edited 23rd May '15 10:44:56 PM by unnoun

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#17427: May 23rd 2015 at 10:49:31 PM

I really like the idea of 18 fighting a magically-created being. Something, something, spirit vs. technology symbolism something something.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17428: May 23rd 2015 at 10:50:45 PM

Or she could upgrade 18. Give her rocket hands. And a time travel app.

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#17429: May 23rd 2015 at 10:51:26 PM

I'm a page late, but the "Big Green Dub" is the result of recursive translation: Japanese to Canadian French to Canadian English, which is why the script is quite mangled. Besides that, it's also notorious for its poor and unenthusiastic voice acting, about 2/3rds of which seems to be done by one man (nicknamed "Old Bastard"), and bizarre renames (Saiyans are "Space Warriors", Piccolo is "Big Green", and Krillin was somehow localized as "Clearin"). Also, Paragus speaks like a Shakespearian thespian for some reason.

It's a real blast to watch.

For similar shitty dubs, check out the Malaysian English dub, which is Japanese -> Malaysian -> English, much more mangled ("I won't allow you to do the bad things anymore!") and arguably even more poorly voiced.

edited 23rd May '15 10:52:56 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#17430: May 23rd 2015 at 10:52:03 PM

[up]x5 Seeing as how both have SSJGSSJ, that wouldn't be much of a threat to them. Just a nuisance.

[up] The Malaysian dub is the one with the really funky Kamehameha, right?

edited 23rd May '15 10:53:06 PM by Zelenal

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#17431: May 23rd 2015 at 10:52:52 PM

What if it's an entire planet of Buu Monsters?

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#17432: May 23rd 2015 at 10:53:51 PM

Versus two gods who, while likely still not as strong, should be approaching the level of Beerus? Uh-uh.

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#17433: May 23rd 2015 at 10:55:25 PM

The general power of the universe increases because of *BURST OF STATIC*

Goku and Vegeta miss out on it.

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#17434: May 23rd 2015 at 10:55:38 PM

It would annoy the hell out of them, for sure, but threaten them?

Not really.

The power of the entire universe increases because Whis thought the business with Demigra was fun and is now pulling off a Demigra himself, randomly boosting the power of prior villains to make them a challenge again...

edited 23rd May '15 10:56:38 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#17435: May 23rd 2015 at 10:57:45 PM

Okay, different idea: Nothing on the world.

Nothing and no one. Just a dead, empty, barren husk. Maybe Goku died as a baby, and was never found by Grandpa Gohan, and King Piccolo took over and eventually killed everyone. Maybe Krillin killed Vegeta, and Gohan, Krillin, and Goku were vastly unprepared when they went to Namek, died and then Dr. Gero took over the world, but he fucked up and everything died. Maybe the villain strands them on Vegeta, where instead of Frieza blowing it up, he just trapped the Saiyans there and watched them all slaughter each other after eventually going mad.

Whatever the reason, Goku and Vegeta are trapped. With no way home, and no one to ask for help.

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#17436: May 23rd 2015 at 10:58:29 PM

Really, if you want a threat for just Piccolo with some help from 18 and maybe Gohan, you can just have Goku and Vegeta be training with Whis for the entire movie/arc/whatever.

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#17437: May 23rd 2015 at 11:00:29 PM

Hrm. But I like the idea from earlier about Pan getting her dad's mystic powerup. >.>

edited 23rd May '15 11:01:12 PM by SonOfSharknado

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#17438: May 23rd 2015 at 11:02:34 PM

Goku and Vegeta ate some of Bills' pudding.

In order to save them from his rage, Whis sent them to the future, at a point in which Bills would've calmed down... somehow. He's Whis, I'm sure he can find a way to do it.

So they're not around.

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#17439: May 23rd 2015 at 11:03:32 PM

Why not just go back in time to stop them from taking the pudding?

It'd be a less frivolous use than using it to beat Freeza.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17440: May 23rd 2015 at 11:03:35 PM

I like the idea of a timeline gun.

You create an entire timeline to weaponize it and fire it at an enemy.

The Time Patrol would hate it.

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#17441: May 23rd 2015 at 11:05:47 PM

Big Green also gave us Donkey Kong 13, and self-defeatist Trunks.

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#17442: May 23rd 2015 at 11:07:52 PM

Time Patrol Trunks: "Whoa was I wrong."

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#17443: May 23rd 2015 at 11:11:32 PM

My god, that voice is so effeminate, it makes Shun sound positively manly.

Also, he didn't shout HEY even once.

0/10.

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#17444: May 23rd 2015 at 11:12:20 PM

What the hell is with Tenshinhan's voice?! [lol]

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#17445: May 23rd 2015 at 11:21:45 PM

It's like he has a clothespin permanently fused to his nose.

Also, Bardock laughs in the face of his own destruction.

edited 23rd May '15 11:24:37 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#17446: May 23rd 2015 at 11:35:19 PM

Big Green Dub makes Broly sound less like a Legendary Super Sayian and more like that one jackass you knew in High school.

Oh my god, and they keep calling Piccolo Big Green. This is hilarious. [lol]

edited 23rd May '15 11:38:10 PM by Shlugo_the_great

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#17447: May 24th 2015 at 1:27:36 AM

I think I vastly underestimate the power boosts in the series. I've thought this for a while.

Fun fact: Between fighting Vegeta on Earth and fighting Frieza on Namek, Goku's base power increased by 375x in the course of six days plus whatever time was spent in the healing tank. That's a permanent increase nearly equivalent to a Super Saiyan 3 transformation.

There was a V-Jump scan that said Unlock Potential!Krillin's full power was 75k. Not sure how official it is, but it'd put him above Zarbon and probably at least some of the Ginyus.

That's accurate. By the time Krillin left Namek, he could beat Nail, nearly every Saiyan that ever existed other than Goku, Vegeta, and their progeny even as the mighty Oozaru, and any Ginyu other than the Captain. As the Ginyus were the strongest warriors in the universe barring Frieza, this puts Krillin in a very elite status as one of the most powerful mortal beings in the entire universe.

Which is easy to overlook given how much stronger the rest of the protagonists became.

Regarding the energy absorption tech

I think this is cooler in concept than practice. Like, being able to drink a Super Kamehameha and gain a massive power boost is great in theory, but it's the kind of trick that really should only work once and only if you have the element of surprise. Goku and Vegeta do have other methods of fighting beyond huge, explosive beam attacks. In point of fact, Android 19's undoing came about as a consequence of Vegeta being smart enough to rip his arms off before firing his Big Bang Attack.

19 and 20 were one-trick ponies. Absorbing energy is a nifty gimmick, but easy enough to work around.

edited 24th May '15 1:28:20 AM by TobiasDrake

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#17448: May 24th 2015 at 4:52:51 AM

[up][up][up]The Big Green Dub had to be based off the European French dub. Those videos have basically the same script as the Portuguese version (except the PT versions are much better acted, for once).

Also, in French, Piccolo is called "Petit Cœur" (Little Heart), which likely explains why they changed their name for the English version. Why they thought "Big Green" was a better name, that's beyond me.

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#17449: May 24th 2015 at 9:13:28 AM

[up][up]

Not exactly.

Yes, the way it was used in series made it easy to avoid once you saw it, but if they were redesigned to place the energy absorbing jewels or whatever in multiple parts of the body, and if possible were hidden.

So someone, lets say Vegeta, fires a huge blast, and the Android crosses his arms to block it, and ends up absorbing the bulk of it. Vegetal is wondering why the blast had so little effect.

Or every time the android lands a hit, he takes a bit of energy. Make them strong enough, and they can constantly drain power while the Z-fighters are using up energy themselves.

Hmmmm. This one still needs some work. I'll ruminate on it.

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