Anyone else notice that the movies tend to cash in on the current saga by featuring superficial knockoff villains of the current Big Bad at the time of their release?
Like, Dead Zone would have to fit before Raditz's arrival. If you squint, its villain is basically a Piccolo jr. substitute.
Tree of Might could only take place during the saiyan saga and featured what was basically an evil Goku.
Lord Slug...um, it was released during the Namek saga and featured an evil Namekian? Although it did feature the False Super Saiyan while the Namek saga was hyping it.
Cooler is self explanatory. Not!Frieza comes to kill the heroes after they beat Frieza.
Meta Cooler. Er, it was during the android saga, so robots?
Androids 13-15. Easier comparison than Meta Cooler. 13 even ripped off Cell with the whole absorb other androids thing.
Broly. -Shrug- While Broly himself doesn't represent anyone from the Cell saga he was introduced while the whole "hype a new form of super saiyan" deal was going on.
Fusion Reborn. Released during the Buu saga and features a villain that has a jolly fat form and serious lithe form. Also fusions.
Wrath of the Dragon. Another Buu ripoff with the whole "magic monster" deal.
Unless you're Ezio Auditore`.
edited 22nd May '15 9:48:49 AM by Spirit
#IceBearForPresidentWell, that shut me up.
Tree of Might could only take place during the saiyan saga and featured what was basically an evil Goku.
Lord Slug...um, it was released during the Namek saga and featured an evil Namekian? Although it did feature the False Super Saiyan while the Namek saga was hyping it.
Cooler is self explanatory. Not!Frieza comes to kill the heroes after they beat Frieza.
Meta Cooler. Er, it was during the android saga, so robots?
Androids 13-15. Easier comparison than Meta Cooler. 13 even ripped off Cell with the whole absorb other androids thing.
Broly. -Shrug- While Broly himself doesn't represent anyone from the Cell saga he was introduced while the whole "hype a new form of super saiyan" deal was going on.
Fusion Reborn. Released during the Buu saga and features a villain that has a jolly fat form and serious lithe form. Also fusions.
Wrath of the Dragon. Another Buu ripoff with the whole "magic monster" deal.
- Garlic Jr. is Raditz. He abducted Goku's son and was defeated only by the combined efforts of Goku and Piccolo, plus a surprise burst of rage strength from Gohan.
- Turles is Vegeta. He came to Earth with his minions who engaged and ultimately defeated the humans before Goku cleared the field and engaged Turles directly. Gohan became an Oozaru until his tail was cut off. Once backed into a corner, Turles pulled a massive power-up out of his ass and proceeded to curbstomp Goku into the ground, prompting Goku to fall back on the Genki-Dama.
- I have no idea what Dr. Wheelo was supposed to be.
- Lord Slug is, of course, Piccolo Daimao. I don't think any more needs to be said on that.
- Likewise, Cooler is blatantly Frieza.
- And Metal Cooler is Mecha-Frieza. They weren't even trying to disguise these for a while.
- Android 13 is Cell, who grows stronger and achieves his ultimate form by devouring the other two Androids introduced alongside him.
- Broly was an attempt to close a plot hole in everyone becoming a Super Saiyan, one that never actually existed in the first place.
- Bojack was Perfect Cell, repurposing the Tenkaichi Budokai to his own ends.
- Broly II wasn't any particular villain but was made to take on the arc between Gohan, Videl, and Goten while they were training for the Tenkaichi Budokai. They got a bit more clever about masking these once the Buu arc hit.
- Bio-Broly, likewise, wasn't about a specific villain, but revolved around the characters most involved in the Tenkaichi Budokai arc.
- Janemba is Majin Buu, skipping the Super Buu phase.
- I haven't actually seen Wrath of the Dragon, so I'm not sure what that one reflects.
Actually, I'd go ahead and say that Janemba doesn't skip Super Buu, he actually skips Kid Buu. And he's also got shades of Dabura, what with the sword and stuffs.
edited 22nd May '15 10:30:34 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariDr. Wheelo and his goons were a callback to the weirdness of early Dragonball, The Worlds Strongest was a pretty original movie plotwise.
Wrath of the Dragon is based on Super Buu and Kid Buu. Hirudegarn is a monster (Super Buu with a few absorptions) that can beat even Gohan, and when it looks to be defeated it grows into an even deadlier form. It takes Goku and his ultimate move to destroy the villain.
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He goes from the fat creampuff to a raging, mindless force of evil. He's tall like Super Buu but his personality is total Pure Buu.
edited 22nd May '15 10:35:54 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I also saw Super Janemba as Super Buu instead of Kid Buu. I think one of the reasons that I and some others think that is because of Goku and Vegeta needing to use the Fusion Dance in order to beat Super Janemba, which mirrors the 2 using the Potara Earrings to beat Buuhan. Fusion Reborn was a play on the early to mid Buu Saga after all.
edited 22nd May '15 10:42:58 AM by VeryMelon
Fair enough, that does make sense. Gogeta is Fusion Reborn's Gotenks.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Pretty much the reason why I think he's Super Buu.
And yeah, I do mean Super Buu before absorbing Gohan or Gotenks or Piccolo. You know, back when he was only barely more intelligent than any random animal.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariCome to think of it, they even straight-up lifted the failed fusion gag for Fusion Reborn, didn't they? That's where we got Veku.
And Pikkon played Piccolo's role, buying time for them to fuse. Because he's green. ...that's racist.
Yeah, Janemba was Super Buu pre-absorptions.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Which makes one more thing that Dragon Ball did before Naruto.
See? We were first even in the stupid fart jokes.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariI'm confused.
Kid Buu was the one who was a nonverbal beast with just enough intelligence to be cruel.
Super Buu, even before absorbing Gotenks and Piccolo, was capable of speech and reason, even though he knew about as much as Freeza on the subject of time units. He held conversations with the group, was able to understand Piccolo's time-buying offers (and cruelly take him at his word in one case).
Super Buu isn't exactly a scholar, but I wouldn't call him barely more intelligent than a random animal, unless your random animal is a Homo sapiens. Or Oolong.
I have a message from another time...He also planned the "absorb Gotenks" scheme before Gohan showed up.
Also even without the Daizenshuu quote, it is extremely clear in the manga that Piccolo is speaking purely in terms of strength regarding Kaioshin. His quote "our dimensions are too different" is a stock phrase that refers to strength alone.
Majin Buu can be clever.
Doesn't mean he's intelligent. I don't know if you know, but some animals, like wolves, can be pretty damn cunning when it comes to hunting.
There's also the Wounded Gazelle Gambit, named after, guess what, an animal capable of pulling it off.
Majin Buu can be clever while still having intelligence well below the level of a human. Instincts go a long way.
Actually, scratch that, apparently the Wounded Gazelle Gambit is named inverse to what I thought it was. I could've sworn it was the other way around.
edited 22nd May '15 7:54:34 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

It doesn't imply that the Grand Kai is stronger than Piccolo. Piccolo has never met the Grand Kai. It implies that Piccolo thinks the Grand Kai might be stronger than him.
edited 22nd May '15 9:43:20 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari