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#17176: May 21st 2015 at 5:51:21 AM

No, they'd just get every example wrong. Or outright lie

I bet someone would add "Toriyama forgot that Tenshinhan was ALWAYS stronger than Kuririn!"

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#17177: May 21st 2015 at 6:04:41 AM

[up] That- I was making a joke.

You're terrible at this joking thing, I think.

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#17179: May 21st 2015 at 6:14:02 AM

The Broly movies do little for me, other than some good dialog. My personal liking of Broly is almost entirely from the Super Sonic Warriors 2 video game. Grabbing a guy by the head and punching him across the room, making geysers erupt from the planet, shooting dozens of homing projectiles while functionally invincible, spiraling finish that makes the screen shake...that and a fan fic I read where Goku befriends an inexplicably still alive Broly with popcorn then forms a team with him and an inexplicably alive Bardok who still has his tail.

The sparks of power, or lack there of, is just TOEI's lack of attention to detail. That element had kind of lost its impact on the show anyway because they often drew lots of needless sparks in fights before hand. So, sparks but now dancing around the guy doesn't seem that much harder to do(just do it when they're standing still, they tend to do that a lot in the show)

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#17180: May 21st 2015 at 7:18:20 AM

Regarding Vegeta: So he's The Comically Serious?

That is exactly right.

The joke is how seriously Vegeta takes himself and how petty and vain he is when defending that ideal.

The punchline is his frequent humiliation. Usually in combat, but the Bingo scene works too. "Crushed and broken beneath an unconscious, naked child" pretty much defines his entire career.

edited 21st May '15 7:18:33 AM by TobiasDrake

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#17181: May 21st 2015 at 7:33:19 AM

Don't tell most of his fans that though, they'll try to dress him up and make him out to be this noble hero and shit.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17182: May 21st 2015 at 7:39:49 AM

Vegeta's definitely not that.

In some ways I'm not sure he entirely stopped being evil. I mean, I don't think he feels any actual remorse for anyone he ever killed. He just doesn't kill people anymore because he has no reason to, and he has way too many diapers to change.

...Oh dear god I'm imagining Saiyan feces. I mean. A lot of food goes in, but how much of it comes out?

I shouldn't want to know the answer to this.

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#17183: May 21st 2015 at 7:43:34 AM

I bet someone would add "Toriyama forgot that Tenshinhan was ALWAYS stronger than Kuririn!"

You really have a chip on your shoulder about the Tien thing.

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#17184: May 21st 2015 at 7:43:35 AM

[up][up] Chi-Chi is a true hero.

[up] His fans can be as obnoxious as Vegeta's.

edited 21st May '15 7:44:24 AM by TobiasDrake

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#17185: May 21st 2015 at 7:47:22 AM

[up][up][up] I don't think Goku's ever felt remorse for all the people he's killed. Does that make him a villain?

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#17186: May 21st 2015 at 7:51:41 AM

Context.

Goku killed enemy combatants. Vegeta killed helpless civilians while they cowered in terror, while also committing frequent deliberate acts of genocide.

Goku's hands aren't exactly clean, he's guilty of a great many things, but he's never done anything comparable to say, that time Vegeta slaughtered an entire Namekian village that wasn't even resisting him, then proceeded to gloat about it after the rest of the villages were resurrected.

At his worst, Goku is irresponsible and self-involved. At his worst, Vegeta is petty and cruel.

edited 21st May '15 7:53:21 AM by TobiasDrake

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#17187: May 21st 2015 at 7:53:15 AM

I wonder if those villagers were ever revived, since Moori decided to allow multiple resurrections after he became Elder.

edited 21st May '15 7:53:27 AM by HamburgerTime

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#17188: May 21st 2015 at 7:55:48 AM

I'd imagine any fan of a character that's not Goku or Vegeta would be frustrating considering how shafted everyone else is. Its kinda like what Sonic is currently going through.,

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#17189: May 21st 2015 at 7:56:57 AM

After Namek, it would take 130 days for Porunga to recover before three more wishes could be made. Those wishes were:

  • Bring Krillin and Goku's souls to Earth's Check-In Station so they can be revived without waking up in the dead of space where Namek once was. Partly fulfilled because Goku wasn't dead.
  • Resurrect Krillin.
  • Resurrect Yamcha.

Another 130 days later, these wishes were made.

  • Resurrect Tien.
  • Resurrect Chiaotzu.
  • Transport all Namekians except Piccolo and God to New Namek.

After another 130 days, they would be able to make wishes again, but the village would have been dead for 390 days. Even if Mori had already managed to reconfigure the Balls to allow them, this exceeds the 1-year limitation on mass revivals.

The tribe Vegeta slaughtered and then gloated about remained dead forever.

edited 21st May '15 7:58:06 AM by TobiasDrake

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#17190: May 21st 2015 at 8:03:11 AM

Did the Namekian balls have the same restriction? I don't remember them mentioning it when that came up in the Buu Saga.

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#17191: May 21st 2015 at 8:04:19 AM

Why would they? It wasn't relevant in the Buu Saga. The people they were reviving were dead for, like, a day at the most.

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#17192: May 21st 2015 at 8:42:20 AM

We don't know if the Namekian Dragonballs have the one year limitation on mass revivals.

Anyway, everyone hated that village anyway, so it's cool.

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#17193: May 21st 2015 at 9:17:37 AM

Because no matter how much he gets beaten down, he doesn't quit. Because he has perseverance that I've never seen in any other fictional character. Because he's my favorite character in fiction.

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#17194: May 21st 2015 at 9:36:48 AM

He's also a baby most of the time when he doesn't get what he wants :P

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#17195: May 21st 2015 at 9:42:23 AM

I don't take my favorite characters seriously.

Except for a joke sometimes.

I despise using the word "canon" in the way fandom normally uses it, and I hate "continuity" even more.

But I admit that taking absurd premises to their logical conclusions in stories is fun.

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#17196: May 21st 2015 at 9:48:01 AM

So the Xenoverse Score Bonus event is pretty mediocre.

The bonus is only applied AFTER you have been given the rank, and as such, the bonus does not alter it. In addition, the bonus DOESN'T register for your high score. If you ascend past your in-game hi-score thanks to the event, it is NOT recorded. So in essence, it only helps you level up.

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#17198: May 21st 2015 at 10:23:10 AM

[up][up]Which is good.

Because otherwise, there'd be impossibly high scores.

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#17199: May 21st 2015 at 10:31:26 AM

I suppose you're right after thinking about it. I think the boost should help with mentor leveling though.

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#17200: May 21st 2015 at 10:33:25 AM

Vegeta totally quits when things get too hard.

He reached that point when he was fighting Recoome, when he was fighting Frieza, even when he was fighting Android 18. One of his greatest moments in the series, Final Explosion, was an incredibly powerful ragequit - one that not only accomplished nothing but actually deprived Goku of a Fusion partner and necessitated the existence of Gotenks.

On two separate occasions, Goku's arms and legs were broken and he kept right on fighting. Android 18 broke Vegeta's arms and that was it for him, he was done.

Goku has also quit when he knew he was beat from time to time, but the point is, Vegeta is not the Determinator people make him out to be. Both Vegeta and Goku have been known to stop fighting when it became apparent they couldn't win; Goku's just smarter about it, because Goku fights to experience something and Vegeta fights to prove something.

edited 21st May '15 10:39:51 AM by TobiasDrake

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