Those explosive wave things aren't energy-efficient. Vegeta couldn't kill Goku, Gohan and Krillin with one and remarked how weak he must be if he couldn't do that. Then we see him use a more concentrated attack in the Kienzan and that easily cuts through Oozaru Gohan.
This might be more on the kienzan being designed to cut though.
"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."While Saiga brings up a good point, I'd argue equally that the thin beams aren't as ineffective as the larger attacks, but simply that the heroes Saiyans are so strong even those attacks can be shrugged off unless they are caught off guard.
At that point in the Raditz battle, I doubt Goku had the strength left to do a Kamehameha. Both he and Piccolo were exhausted. That's, I think, part of the reason it took so long to charge. That and the missing arm.
Just in general, if your energy attacks are strong enough to wound, I see no reason why you should go for full-blown incineration unless that's the only way to kill them. Sure, it's more thorough, but if you rupture their heart or brain, it doesn't much matter if you also atomized their left shin.
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This might be more on the kienzan being designed to cut though.
Which means the attack wasn't inefficient, Vegeta was too weak to do it. Because of the damage he's taken. He then tries to kill everyone with his bare hands and only uses ki attacks again for the Kienzan, so he clearly just lacks the ki to finish them all off.
Goku definitely could do a Kamehameha at that point. At the 23rd Budokai, it was mentioned that his huge Super Kamehameha didn't lower his stamina at all, and he did another one near the end of the fight despite having fought for so long. Against Raditz, he showed no signs of exhaustion until Raditz crushed his chest. Piccolo wasn't exhausted until he used the technique.
The problem with that is that not all energy attacks are equal, even coming from the same user. So Goku might be able to vaporize someone with a huge Kamehameha, but that doesn't mean he could shoot a thin beam through their heart or brain.
He says it's better if he uses two hands for it, he later uses both hands to produce a blast that is identical save for the size. Given the distinct shape, I think it's far more reasonable to assume this is the two-hand Makankosappo than some unrelated move. Occam's Razor.
That was during the fight with Nappa wasn't it? When he and Krillin tried to kill the latter when Gohan chose the absolute worst time to chicken out.
Does he use it in the Manga too?
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Yep. Dragon Ball Vol. 15, Ch. 218, Pg. 9.
edited 16th May '15 7:19:10 PM by Zelenal
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Odd he didn't name it.
Is it wrong that I still prefer the one handed version even though the two handed one is more powerful?
I just like the way it looks.
One Strip! One Strip!You know, looking at some of the early panels, I forgot just how freaking short Vegeta was at first. In some panels, he looks so freaking tiny.
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So what. He'd do the hand gestures with two hands?
edited 16th May '15 7:33:21 PM by HandsomeRob
One Strip! One Strip!The panel I was thinking of was actually just him by himself.
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