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Raven666 I'd totally hug you if that was something I did from Everywhere and Nowhere. I'm watching you. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#16651: May 14th 2015 at 8:00:48 PM

[up][up]Isn't his name Demigra?

edited 14th May '15 8:01:19 PM by Raven666

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16652: May 14th 2015 at 8:00:48 PM

[up][up][up]She sealed Demigra solo last time.

And she could blow up the tree and abort it if she wanted to. Kill some of the competition when the fruit lands.

She could do a culling if she felt like it.

She could control the means of reproduction.

[up] Different Demon God. There's several presumably.

Wasn't there a thing where the Makaio and the Shin-Jin came from the same sort of tree?

So couldn't she have traveled back in time and blown up the fruit Demigra came from?

edited 14th May '15 8:16:37 PM by unnoun

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#16653: May 14th 2015 at 8:28:36 PM

She sealed Demigra solo last time, true, but now is clearly way out of her league. Either she got Gohan'd or Demigra is stronger.

Anyway, DEMON GOD DUMPLIN is the main character of TFS' playthrough of Xenoverse. He absorbed the entirety of his home universe.

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#16654: May 14th 2015 at 8:29:37 PM

Isn't the plot about how the time paradoxes are making Demigra stronger?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#16655: May 14th 2015 at 8:32:46 PM

I really wasn't paying much attention. I was busier thinking about how much money I needed to make to buy the Super Saiyan wig so I could make Brian.

Or Jason McNally. Who is secretly Freeza's little brother.

edited 14th May '15 8:33:19 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#16656: May 14th 2015 at 8:33:48 PM

Is it bad that every time I see the words "DEMON GOD DUMPLIN" I always hear it in the voice Lani uses for him?

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#16657: May 14th 2015 at 8:33:56 PM

Speaking of Brian, in the actual series, do you think anyone's battle power actually goes above eleven billion?

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#16658: May 14th 2015 at 8:38:01 PM

It is entirely probable that some forms of Buu, Ultimate Gohan, Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks, and/or Super Vegetto were well above 11 billion.

edited 14th May '15 8:40:25 PM by TobiasDrake

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#16659: May 14th 2015 at 8:39:22 PM

There's apparently a semi-official source that says SS4 Gogeta is only 2 bil, but GT is of course only semi-official itself.

edited 14th May '15 8:39:27 PM by HamburgerTime

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#16660: May 14th 2015 at 8:47:34 PM

To put this in perspective, Goku would only need to achieve a battle power of 27.5 million between the Cell and Buu Sagas for Super Saiyan 3 Goku to have an 11 billion battle power.

[up] Given the supposed x500 multiplier for Super Saiyan 4, that would put Gogeta himself at a mere 4 million by the end of GT, barely stronger than Goku was when he fought Frieza on Namek.

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#16661: May 14th 2015 at 8:47:47 PM

It's that japanese scouter game thing.

It kinda messes up a lot.

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#16662: May 14th 2015 at 8:49:48 PM

That source completely ignores the manga battle powers.

Going off the manga/jump battle powers and official Super Saiyan multipliers, I find it very unlikely if the Boo arc didn't break the tens of billions.

I think it would have reached the hundred billions.

[up][up] 500x for Super Saiyan 4 is both fanmade and too small to fit the series, because it's clearly much stronger than 3.

edited 14th May '15 8:51:35 PM by Saiga

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16663: May 14th 2015 at 8:52:19 PM

What's the multiplier for Ascended Super Saiyan, Even More Ascended Super Saiyan (Power-Weighted Super Saiyan? the muscley thing Trunks did) and Full-Power Super Saiyan.

And, if for whatever reason we're not ignoring movie bullshit, False Super Saiyan and Legendary Super Saiyan?

[up] I think SSJ 4 is 4000 times. Ten times Super Saiyan 3.

It's a bullshit number that explains what 10X Kamehameha could mean.

edited 14th May '15 8:53:22 PM by unnoun

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#16664: May 14th 2015 at 8:53:01 PM

[up][up] A 1000x multiplier, maybe?

[up] Ascended Super Saiyan and Ascended Super Saiyan 2 are just somewhere between 50x and 100x. I think Ascended Super Saiyan 2 actually is 100x. As for Full Power Super Saiyan, it's still just 50x.

edited 14th May '15 8:54:17 PM by Zelenal

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#16665: May 14th 2015 at 8:54:44 PM

The Creator God Tori-bot is also within the hundreds of octillions.

edited 14th May '15 8:59:08 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#16667: May 14th 2015 at 8:55:10 PM

All we know is that Goku's power in base does not exceed 120,000,000. Anything else is pure speculation.

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#16668: May 14th 2015 at 8:56:49 PM

I was being polite. Both x500 and x4,000 are different derivatives of the x10 Kamehameha, and the x4,000 puts Gogeta at 500,000 to meet the bullshit 2 billion, weaker than Frieza in his First Form.

Regardless of which way you slice it, 2 billion is hilariously low for Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta and would require both Goku and Vegeta to have gotten weaker over the course of the series.

edited 14th May '15 8:57:36 PM by TobiasDrake

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#16669: May 14th 2015 at 8:57:49 PM

Didn't that game also say that Goku didn't get any stronger in base after Frieza?

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#16670: May 14th 2015 at 8:58:19 PM

Those weren't given multipliers, but multiple sources suggest the Grades are weaker than Super Saiyan 2 (which is 2x Super Saiyan).

False Super Saiyan was intended to be Super Saiyan in the movie and retconned when the real Super Saiyan stood up, so I just say 50x. Fits with the 100x Kaio-ken beating up Slug even worse.

Full Power Super Saiyan is just Super Saiyan.

[up] Yes.

I think Super Saiyan 4 is 40,000x with Golden Oozaru being 4,000x to match the battles with baby and Perfect File comments on Baby's forms.

edited 14th May '15 9:00:54 PM by Saiga

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16671: May 14th 2015 at 8:59:44 PM

Didn't Cell say that the only problem with Grade III was that it was too slow?

I could see it being as strong as Super Saiyan 2 but having a massive draw back like that.

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#16672: May 14th 2015 at 8:59:45 PM

If we're going by what the creator of Dragon Ball Redux is currently going with, due to Resurrection F, Super Saiyans Grade 2 and 3 are 1.5 and 2.5 times stronger than their respective Super Saiyan forms; i.e., 75x and 125x for Super Saiyan, 150x and 250x for Super Saiyan 2, and 600x and 1000x for Super Saiyan 3, with "Legendary" being the same as Grade 3; False is a 25x boost, Super Ozaru is a 4000x boost, higher than his original 500x boost for it, Super Saiyan 4/Hitozaru is an 8000x boost, higher than his original 1000x boost for it, and Super Saiyan God/Legendary Saiyan God is a 600,000x boost.

Also, Kaio-ken x100 does not exist. It was only ever stated in the American movie pamphlet for the movie, and was never actually mentioned in-movie or in any of the original Japanese material.

edited 14th May '15 9:03:13 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#16673: May 14th 2015 at 9:02:38 PM

Redux is a fan rewrite of the series. As such, it changes details from the series to suit, and the multipliers he chose aren't meant to be commentary on the original.

[up][up] Goku also says it eats up too much energy.

I also think its power is equal to 2.

[up] Incorrect. Kaio-ken x100 is in the Japanese phamphlet as well.

edited 14th May '15 9:04:50 PM by Saiga

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16674: May 14th 2015 at 9:02:58 PM

I prefer to think that Super Saiyan God is additive because fuck you.

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#16675: May 14th 2015 at 9:04:47 PM

Well here's the thing, Super Saiyan God being a 600,000x boost makes sense, due to the 6 thing going for it; God Goku has a God level of 6, it requires 6 righteous Saiyans to activate, it has 6 digits...

...my God, Goku becomes the Devil.

edited 14th May '15 9:07:41 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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