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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#16626: May 14th 2015 at 2:31:46 AM

Since I've been doing a psychology course at university as an elective, my side project has been to try and work out if and how the situations Gohan had to go through would affect his development. Obviously, being exposed to situations of violence from a young age would have affected him a lot. Not to mention the 6 months of isolation from human contact, and all the injuries he would have gotten from fighting.

I also keep thinking of DBZA: "Wouldn't that cause horrible muscular degeneration for someone my age?"

I know I shouldn't be thinking about it like this. Toriyama wasn't thinking about in-depth psychological development. I just can't help myself.

Also, surely becoming a Super Saiyan would be the most terrifying thing ever. I mean, Goku and Vegeta were too thrilled that it made them stronger, but...I mean, you lose a bit of control when it happens. No wonder Goku decided to make being comfortable with it a priority.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#16627: May 14th 2015 at 4:52:10 AM

Yeah, Vegeta rused Goku into taking the attack. Had he misjudged Goku's character he likely would've killed himself and everyone. Getting angry kinda gives a middle finger to rationality.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
#16628: May 14th 2015 at 6:45:29 AM

How the hell did you come to that conclusion? One person wonders if Vegeta might've been intended to be sympathetic early on, and it's pointed out by multiple people that he was a bastard.

That's because I found what I said funny. I did it for the lolz.

An interesting tidbit is that Nappa is the only one who actually kills anyone once he and Vegeta come to Earth. A sign that Vegeta was intended to be more sympathetic from the beginning?

My point proven. No offense, Hamburger Time.

qtjinla15 Since: Dec, 2010
#16629: May 14th 2015 at 7:41:10 AM

The msell of that bs and backpedaling.

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#16630: May 14th 2015 at 8:36:59 AM

I dedicate this page to Marky Mark.

Hail Satan!

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#16631: May 14th 2015 at 8:43:13 AM

How about no?

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#16632: May 14th 2015 at 11:38:39 AM

[up] But Satan is the greatest master! You cannot deny this!

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#16633: May 14th 2015 at 11:52:54 AM

Praise be to Satan! SATAN! SATAN! SATAN! SATAN! SATAN! SATAN! SATAN! C'mon, y'all, hail Satan!

...man, I hope TFS has a lot of fun with that moment.

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#16634: May 14th 2015 at 11:55:51 AM

You cannot argue with the fact that Satan worship kinda saved the world.

On the other hand God has been mostly useless through the whole ordeal.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#16635: May 14th 2015 at 2:35:51 PM

You know, the anime really didn't need to put every piece of dialogue from the manga. If a character says "I can barely follow their movements", it was just there to explain to the audience that they're really, really fast, because that's hard to show in manga. If the fight is animated in a way that makes it look just as fast...what's the point of keeping the dialogue in? The animation itself is already doing a good job explaining it.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#16636: May 14th 2015 at 4:06:46 PM

Because showing people moving invisibly just wasn't enough anymore, because the characters had been doing that shit since the first World Martial Arts Tournament. So they pretty much had to include a lot of those seemingly useless lines.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#16637: May 14th 2015 at 4:54:26 PM

You cannot argue with the fact that Satan worship kinda saved the world. On the other hand God has been mostly useless through the whole ordeal.

Well, that's typical Japan.tongue

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#16639: May 14th 2015 at 7:15:19 PM

Can I say I really like King Yemma? Seeing him treat Kami like You, Get Me Coffee in his first appearance was hilarious and really serves to set up how high the divine pecking order goes.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#16640: May 14th 2015 at 7:32:12 PM

And yet, he's still weaker than all of the Kai's

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#16641: May 14th 2015 at 7:36:31 PM

Also interesting: Kibito is supposedly stronger than all the lesser Kais (Word of God says he's even with base Teen Gohan) yet isn't a Kai himself.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#16642: May 14th 2015 at 7:37:00 PM

....Yeah, what is Kibito??

edited 14th May '15 7:37:06 PM by SonOfSharknado

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#16643: May 14th 2015 at 7:38:21 PM

[up] He's a Shin-jin, same as the Kais and Kaioshins. What's weird is that he's seemingly somewhere in between the power of the regular-fruit Shin-jin and the golden-fruit Shin-jin.

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Love is Love is Love
#16644: May 14th 2015 at 7:45:06 PM

....Explain all of that?

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#16645: May 14th 2015 at 7:45:46 PM

@kkohoho

While Satan is generally more reasonable than God (because God Is Evil) in Shin Megami Tensei, it's more like Lucifer saves the world.

And getting them confused or treating them like the same person is a surefire way to get killed in a very messy way.

edited 14th May '15 7:46:03 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#16646: May 14th 2015 at 7:49:30 PM

[up][up] The Shin-jin are born from the fruit of a special tree (one that I think is actually in Tokitoki). Every other forever, there's a special golden fruit that will become a Kaioushin. Kibito is somewhere between the regular fruit and golden fruit.

edited 14th May '15 7:50:05 PM by Zelenal

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#16647: May 14th 2015 at 7:49:41 PM

[up][up][up] I explained it a couple pages ago but here goes. This info's from a recent databook that came out around the same time as the OVA with Abo and Kado.

  • The Kais' species are called the Shin-jins. They're native to Other World and are born from the fruits of a magical tree that grows there.
  • Most often, the tree produces red fruits that grow into normal-powered Shin-jin like King Kai. Very rarely, however, it'll sprout a golden fruit, and the resulting Shin-jin will be much stronger than normal. Only these Shin-jin are allowed to become Supreme Kais.
  • When a Kai dies (which apparently does happen after a good long while) a replacement is selected by lot from all the other Shin-jin.
  • There are ~45-50 Shin-jin at a time who are not holding an active Kai position. In the series itself, Kibito is the only one of these we see.

edited 14th May '15 7:50:43 PM by HamburgerTime

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16648: May 14th 2015 at 7:53:02 PM

So the Supreme Kai of Time controls the reproduction of the entire rest of their species.

Huh.

...Of course, if we include some of the stuff alluded to in Tree of Might, Turles ate God fetuses.

edited 14th May '15 7:57:41 PM by unnoun

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#16649: May 14th 2015 at 7:55:50 PM

Well, she doesn't, not really. She... actually doesn't seem to control anything in Tokitoki. The one with the powers over time is the bird, not her. Furthermore, it's pretty clear that, much like the other Supreme Kai, she's vastly outclassed by the main cast (and DEMON GOD DUMPLIN, but then again, who isn't?).

[up]There's also the tree in HFIL. I think it had red fruit, but I'm not sure.

edited 14th May '15 7:56:28 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#16650: May 14th 2015 at 7:59:16 PM

Also, the four murdered Supreme Kais haven't been replaced in five million years. Makes you wonder exactly how rare that gold fruit is...


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