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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#16576: May 13th 2015 at 10:03:27 AM

We're not supposed to take seriously the fact that Chi-Chi spent approximately six years in a blind fury, hating everyone and everything, and at one point expressing such complete and utter disdain for Goku's crippled and battered physical condition that it prompted Krillin to even call her out on her callousness?

Chi-Chi being absolutely livid about what happened with Gohan is thoroughly documented. My point is that it's not entirely her fault, because the situation does look pretty shitty from where she's standing, given her values.

edited 13th May '15 10:05:22 AM by TobiasDrake

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#16577: May 13th 2015 at 10:05:53 AM

Why did she let Goten train with Trunks? And even trained him herself?

And it seems like Gohan had regularish contact with Krillin and 18 during those seven years.

Like. He had met Marron before and knew of their living situation. And knew that Krillin was growing his hair out. He broke the fourth wall to explain it to the audience.

It seems like she has less of a problem with the things Goku does and more with the fact that Goku is doing it.

Even when it's not his fault.

I mean, by the Buu Saga she's on shockingly good terms with Piccolo.

edited 13th May '15 10:08:40 AM by unnoun

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#16578: May 13th 2015 at 10:08:05 AM

It's not uncommon for parents to put all their hopes and dreams and ideals and pressure on their first child, then be more relaxed with subsequent children. Chi-Chi already had her perfect idealized scholar child by the time Goten came along.

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#16579: May 13th 2015 at 10:10:51 AM

So why is Gohan still allowed to have contact with Krillin, 18 and Piccolo by the Buu Saga?

She's also relaxed on a lot of her rules for Gohan by that point.

edited 13th May '15 10:11:15 AM by unnoun

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#16580: May 13th 2015 at 10:16:58 AM

[up][up][up][up] Not when she says things like how she doesn't care about what happens to planet as long as Gohan studies. Like, I don't even know why we're trying to have a serious introspective about this.

Does it make for good headcanon? Yea I guess, but I'd hardly say it has any real merit in actual canon. Chi-chi has shown that she does love Goku despite his eccentricities, and she ultimately got what she wanted for her son in the end. So its like, what even :V

[up]Yea this too, she didn't have any sort of problem with Gohan fighting in the World Tournament and was actively encouraging him to do so when Goku showed up.

edited 13th May '15 10:18:11 AM by BlackYakuzu94

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#16581: May 13th 2015 at 10:18:58 AM

Well yeah, there was money on the line there! Goku taking 1st, Gohan 2nd and Goten the kid cup would've gotten them a lot of money.

edited 13th May '15 10:19:54 AM by LordofLore

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16582: May 13th 2015 at 10:23:10 AM

She also didn't seem to mind Gohan telling his other friends about it. Even though Vegeta and Trunks really don't need anymore money.

Piccolo would probably have given it to Gohan though.

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#16583: May 13th 2015 at 10:28:13 AM

As far as I know, the known Bioandroids of the Dragon Ball universe include Cell, Cell Jrs., Bio-Men, Ebifurya, Kishime, Misokatsun, Hatchiyack, Bio-Broly, Jaguar's Bio-Warriors, Baby, Sandmen, Yorgans, Nameless Failed Expirements, Cell-X, Cell-X Jrs. and Genome.

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#16584: May 13th 2015 at 10:28:19 AM

So why is Gohan still allowed to have contact with Krillin, 18 and Piccolo by the Buu Saga?

She's also relaxed on a lot of her rules for Gohan by that point.

Because Gohan's being all scholarly and being the son she wanted him to be? This is many years later, Gohan's no longer small and impressionable, and he's on the track she wanted him on in the first place. Of course she's relaxed a lot of her rules for Gohan.

Not when she says things like how she doesn't care about what happens to planet as long as Gohan studies. Like, I don't even know why we're trying to have a serious introspective about this.

Does it make for good headcanon? Yea I guess, but I'd hardly say it has any real merit in actual canon. Chi-chi has shown that she does love Goku despite his eccentricities, and she ultimately got what she wanted for her son in the end. So its like, what even :V

...because we are. The topic of discussion was Chi-Chi's behavior towards Goku and Gohan. It is being discussed. Why is that a problem?

Well yeah, there was money on the line there! Goku taking 1st, Gohan 2nd and Goten the kid cup would've gotten them a lot of money.

She explicitly says as much, IIRC.

edited 13th May '15 10:28:36 AM by TobiasDrake

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#16585: May 13th 2015 at 10:40:06 AM

[up][up]does Ultron Meta-Cooler count as one?

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#16586: May 13th 2015 at 10:47:17 AM

[up][up] Because I feel like its less of a discussion and more talking about how much of a horrible horrible father/husband Goku is and how he doesn't care about his family...when that's kinda wrong.

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#16587: May 13th 2015 at 11:01:57 AM

Because Gohan's being all scholarly and being the son she wanted him to be? This is many years later, Gohan's no longer small and impressionable, and he's on the track she wanted him on in the first place. Of course she's relaxed a lot of her rules for Gohan.

Plus, he's like the strongest warrior on the planet who's not dead. She doesn't have to worry about him getting hurt like he used to, so there's no reasons for her to be bothered by him competing.

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#16588: May 13th 2015 at 12:55:35 PM

@alekos

No, Metal Cooler is not a bio android. He's just an android. The only part of Cooler that survived was a chunk of his head, and that is still alive and controlling all the other ones.

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#16589: May 13th 2015 at 2:49:48 PM

I don't think Chi-Chi is some sort of control freak. She's just really, really idealistic. She's got the complete wrong worldview for raising Saiyans, and she doesn't seem to realise that until Goku dies for the 2nd time.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#16590: May 13th 2015 at 2:56:45 PM

Shifting gears a bit, we know Mr. Satan is very strong for a human, but obviously nowhere near a Saiyan or even a ki-controlling human. My question is, how does he compare to humans who "only" have Charles Atlas Superpower but not Ki, like, say, Yajirobe for instance. Stronger or weaker?

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#16591: May 13th 2015 at 3:04:41 PM

I think the machine at the second to last tournament showed that Satan was above most of the other non ki fighters.

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#16592: May 13th 2015 at 3:16:32 PM

I believe Toriyama said he's the strongest non-ki based fighter on the planet.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#16593: May 13th 2015 at 3:21:49 PM

I forget, could Yajirobe and Ox King control Ki?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#16594: May 13th 2015 at 3:30:07 PM

They should be able to considering Yajirobe trained with Kami, and Ox-King trained with Master Roshi, but neither can.

The former can sense Ki though, if his accurate directions to those new crews are anything to go by.

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#16595: May 13th 2015 at 3:47:46 PM

I'm still really confused as to how strong Yajirobe is supposed to be. And how did he get so strong in the first place? He was introduced as some Extreme Omnivore living in the woods. And yet he was able to kill Piccolo's minion and go toe-to-toe with Goku.

I guess I shouldn't really expect an explanation, considering this was Dragon Ball and people were strong there...just because. But still.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#16596: May 13th 2015 at 3:49:19 PM

There was a magazine article that apparently gave his final power level, post-Kami, as somewhere in the 900s, but that seems odd to me. That's four times King Piccolo.

edited 13th May '15 3:49:28 PM by HamburgerTime

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#16597: May 13th 2015 at 3:50:30 PM

That doesn't seem like that big a stretch to me. They all came out of that training way stronger than King Piccolo.

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#16598: May 13th 2015 at 3:50:41 PM

Since Yajirobe ended with a power level over 900, he very likely does have ki control. Techniques are what he probably doesn't have.

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#16599: May 13th 2015 at 4:09:08 PM

The thing that always leaps to mind with me about Chi-Chi is when she screamed at a crippled, severely bleeding, maybe dying Goku for things beyond his control. Gohan, by comparison, had like a scraped knee. Because Goku had been a responsible adult and took his fight with the super-powered monster away from his toddler.

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#16600: May 13th 2015 at 4:47:36 PM

But every good parent knows that you need to let your toddlers fight super powered monsters! It builds character or something.

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