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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16426: May 10th 2015 at 11:32:01 AM

But Toriyama says that Goku is just going to stick to the regular Super Saiyan form from now on.

Not twice it. Not eight times it. Just SS1.

zsax Since: Mar, 2015
#16427: May 10th 2015 at 11:35:39 AM

Well, just to make things clear, when I say Ssj2 tier I mean Ssj2 Goku/Majin Vegeta tier. I never got the impression Grey Buu could be a challange to Ssj3 Goku.

Heck, I always believed Grey Buu and Majin Vegeta were rivals.

edited 10th May '15 11:35:56 AM by zsax

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#16428: May 10th 2015 at 11:48:53 AM

Saying "SSJ 2 tier" is dumb, because SSJ 2 is not a given level of power

Goddamn this. I'm really flabbergasted by how many people I see say things like this.

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#16429: May 10th 2015 at 12:15:41 PM

It isn't. Kaiou-ken multiplies the user's base power by 2 (which each number afterwards being that multiplier), SSJ does so by 50, SSJ2 does so by 100, and SSJ3 does so by 400.

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qtjinla15 Since: Dec, 2010
#16430: May 10th 2015 at 12:44:23 PM

i know. They seem incapable of understanding that people are using that term for a tier of power that characters have/had/use which shouldn't be that difficult to comprehend.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#16431: May 10th 2015 at 1:44:10 PM

It's the unfortunate consequence of a series like this.

It's like comparing a status buff with a character's level.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#16432: May 10th 2015 at 2:13:08 PM

This reminds me of the Legacy of Goku: Buu's fury game, where turning into a super sayian was a special technique that raised the stats by 1.5 I think which worked independently from the character level. Funny thing though, because of that mechanic Ultimate Gohan was the worst of playable characters - he gained a shit ton of levels, but lost the ability to turn super sayian, and he was unplayable for such a long time that by the time we got him back all the other characters would be at higher level than him anyway.

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#16433: May 10th 2015 at 2:31:03 PM

So i'm wondering, why is this under Fridge Brilliance on the Xenoverse page?

Every bit of Lunch/Launch's outfit in this game cost 800,000 zeni. There are four pieces of this blasted thing, which means (combined, that's 3,200,000 zeni), and since Zeni is based on yen, this entire set would cost $26,506 in real life. Why is it so ungodly expensive? Lunch WAS a thief; who said she bought it herself?

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#16434: May 10th 2015 at 2:40:42 PM

Nuke it.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#16435: May 10th 2015 at 3:02:06 PM

@Shlugo

Buu's Fury was ridiculously easy, though, and grinding was even easier when one considers that the weighted clothing boosted experience gain immensely, and there was that hat that gave extra stat points per level up, I think...

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#16436: May 10th 2015 at 3:02:47 PM

They're not even right about zeni being based on yen. Jaco shows they've got a different exchange rate.

Anyway Goku only using Super Saiyan 1 happened after Battle of Gods and Toriyama said you'd have to see the movie to understand. It's different now, Super Saiyan is used to bring out the God power.

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#16437: May 10th 2015 at 3:06:43 PM

[up][up]Oh yeah, Buu's furry was a very easy game and even without intentionally grinding I'd often ended up overleveld when it came to face some boss character.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#16438: May 10th 2015 at 3:23:34 PM

The point is, Gohan might have wound up being comparatively weaker 'cuz of No Super Saiyan, but since past a certain point you'd have to intentionally let enemies hit you for them to hurt you, well... it wasn't that big a deal.

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#16439: May 10th 2015 at 3:27:32 PM

I agree it wasn't a big deal. I was just pointing out a probably unintentional peculiarity to the mechanics used in the game.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16440: May 10th 2015 at 3:49:49 PM

It was secret foreshadowing for Revival of F.

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#16441: May 10th 2015 at 3:56:15 PM

I remember how much grinding the first Legacy of Goku had.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#16443: May 10th 2015 at 4:01:13 PM

i forget,did Cell have any Saibaman DNA in him?

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#16444: May 10th 2015 at 4:37:23 PM

[up][up] All of it.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#16445: May 10th 2015 at 4:38:41 PM

The first Legacy of Goku had no grinding in it.

'Cause it was shit and nobody played it.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#16446: May 10th 2015 at 4:52:44 PM

I did, that was the only one I had.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#16447: May 10th 2015 at 4:57:22 PM

I also played it a long time ago. I remember the controls were really clunky and there was virtually no explanation of who any of the villains were, just "Here's a boss, go fight him."

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#16448: May 10th 2015 at 4:58:36 PM

I also played through the whole game like six or seven times.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#16450: May 10th 2015 at 7:20:31 PM

I played it on a really long train ride, I kind of regret that decision.

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