Well, Gohan does state that he lost half of his power. It wasn't just because he could only use one arm. It was because Gohan tanked what would be a killing blow on Vegeta. It broke his arm, but it also made him lose power.
...somehow.
The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!![]()
Somehow injuries cause a loss of power...
And as a result, Buu woke up, millions died, and the Earth was destroyed.
I wonder if Abridged Kaioushin will rip them a few new ones over it.
I'm kinda looking forward to the Vegeta / Goku fight truthfully. I bet that's gonna be a huge lampshade hanging on how stupid they are.
One Strip! One Strip!Oh god!
Someone should point that out. In fact, I want Goku to be the one to do it.
That would completely drive Vegeta up the wall.
One Strip! One Strip!A fair assessment, really, since nobody knew Goku had discovered Super Saiyan 3 yet.
While it's unclear how large the power gap between Fat Buu and SS 3 Goku is, there's a lot of breathing room due to the x400 multiplier. Even if Buu was only half as powerful as SS 3 Goku - equivalent to 200 Gokus - that would still make his awakening at 50% a fair match for Super Saiyan 2 Goku, and too powerful for Vegeta or Gohan to hope to handle.
And we can reasonably assume the gap was not quite that severe.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.That reminds me: I wonder how they will deal with the whole Goku chooses not to beat Buu because he want's Goten and Trunks to do it in Abridged?
He is Goku so it will probably be something silly and funny, but I'm also hoping there's some better logic to it than in the main series, just to surprise us.
Like maybe have him say he didn't expect Super Saiyan 3 to work in the living world and didn't want to rely on it, or something like that. Or just some really silly reason that also makes complete sense at the same time.
One Strip! One Strip!I think SS3 Goku and Fat Buu were closer in strength than that.
It seems like it goes.
Mr. Buu < Kid Buu ≤ Fat Majin Buu ≤ SS 3 Goku < Super Buu < Super Buu with Piccolo absorbed ≤ Buff Buu ≤ Super Buu with Piccolo, Goten and Trunks absorbed < Ultimate Gohan ≤ Super Buu with Piccolo and Gotenks absorbed ≤ Super Buu with Piccolo, Goten, Trunks, and Gohan absorbed < Vegito.
Probably.
...I wonder how strong Buu would have been if he ever could have used 100% of the power he got from the Supreme Kais.
We know even Super Buu didn't manage that because he was still weaker than when he had just absorbed South Supreme Kai. All that goodness from the Grand Supreme Kai, and what he'd learned from Hercule was just too much.
edited 10th May '15 11:19:07 AM by unnoun
When they remove Mr. Buu inside Super Buu, they get out and Buu temporarily reverts to his Buff Buu state, and they note that his power level actually increased from when he was Super Buu. Then it goes back down again when he transforms into Kid Buu.
And Piccolo is weaker than East Supreme Kai, who was weaker than South Supreme Kai, so. I figure Super Piccolo Buu and Buff Buu were about the same. What with the extra power from the Grand Supreme Kai, and with Buff Buu slightly tempered by South's goodness. Buff Buu might have been slightly stronger, I dunno.
Super Piccolo Buu would definitely have been smarter though.
edited 10th May '15 11:16:32 AM by unnoun
It's funny that if not for Goku just deciding to leave the fate of the universe to the kids the arc would have ended with "and then Goku turned SSJ 3 and destroyed Buu." Like, talk about anticlimax.
When they steal Mr Buu cocoon the Kaioshin comments that Buu's power is growing instead of falling.
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edited 10th May '15 11:16:26 AM by Shlugo_the_great
Saying "SSJ 2 tier" is dumb, because SSJ 2 is not a given level of power. SSJ 2 is (Base * 100). SSJ 2 Goten is almost certainly weaker than SSJ Goku, and SSJ 3 Gotenks would lose to base Vegetto.
edited 10th May '15 11:22:59 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariNo, the characters say that they need to go beyond the powers of the Super Saiyan in the sense that they need to improve the transformation itself.
That's why they're experimenting with it, that's why they come up with the alternate forms and all that stuff.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

I still don't believe Gohan was that much stronger than Cell after he revived, otherwise it would make no fucking sense for him to hold himself back.
Like, if he was so much stronger then one arm should have been more than enough to KO him. So either Toriyama really had to contrive a plot point for some drama, or Super Perfect Cell was at least a little less stronger than Gohan.
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.