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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16201: May 7th 2015 at 6:34:55 PM

But according to Saiga, dead people just regenerate!

Is Saiga wrong about something!?

...I mean, Goku isn't worried about dying when he fights Buu on Earth because he's already dead.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#16202: May 7th 2015 at 6:36:23 PM

Well, apparently Goku knew that if push came to shove he could beat Buu so not much to worry about there.

Plus, I doubt dying again is a common occurrence. The vast majority just lose their bodies, move on to heaven or hell until they're reincarnated.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#16203: May 7th 2015 at 6:37:26 PM

In the translation I read it said bad people have to wait in Hell until their soul is "purified," then they reincarnate.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16204: May 7th 2015 at 6:39:19 PM

...I mean, it'd make more sense if someone with a body while dead loses it when they die while dead.

They just become a fluffy cloud. And completely immune to anything but also unable to do anything.

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#16205: May 7th 2015 at 6:42:27 PM

Naaaaaaaaaaaail. Gather the Saiga Balls.

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#16206: May 7th 2015 at 6:45:59 PM

It's really weird that so many people bought into Mr. Satan's "It's a trick!" thing considering how ki attacks and such seemed to be a regular occurrence at all the tournaments. And then you have Demon King Piccolo and his minions...I know it was awhile but these are not things none idiots should forget or buy into an obvious windbag's ramblings. *still hates Mr. Satan and likely always will.*

It's indicated during the tournament arcs that they're not so commonplace. The Crane and Turtle students were something else to behold in the three tournaments they participated in, bringing amazing, fantastic arts into the ring that blew everyone away with their spectacle; before that, they were rare to occur if ever, and mundane fighters like King Chappa ruled the ring. After the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, when all the ki-using characters left the ring, it went right back to those mundane arts.

By the time of the Cell Saga, it's been over a decade since anybody's seen Goku, Piccolo, et. al in the ring. Mr. Satan is the new Goku, wowing the crowd with his unbeatable skills. Between his credibility as the World Champion, the amount of time that's passed since Goku and Piccolo literally destroyed the ring, and the fact that the abilities demonstrated in the Cell Games are several degrees of magnitude higher than anything Goku and his crew ever showed off in the Tenkaichi Budokai, it's not hard to understand why people were willing to buy into his claim that it was just dirty fighters using special effects.

edited 7th May '15 6:49:05 PM by TobiasDrake

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#16207: May 7th 2015 at 6:47:48 PM

I've always been really confused as to why Martial Arts wasn't more popular after Dragon Ball. How did Master Roshi not have a constant stream of students after three tournaments in a row that showed that Kung Fu can give you super powers?

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#16208: May 7th 2015 at 6:49:15 PM

Dead People Dying Again

Unnoun is right; it's pretty clearly asserted that if dead people die, they experience Cessation of Existence. It's the difference between killing your body and killing your soul. You don't come back from the latter in any form, ever.

[up] He didn't want any. He didn't even want to take on Goku and Krillin. Plus he's hard to find.

edited 7th May '15 6:49:41 PM by TobiasDrake

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#16209: May 7th 2015 at 6:50:49 PM

This isn't Bleach. Souls die when they're killed.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16210: May 7th 2015 at 6:54:21 PM

Unnoun is right

Of course I am. My username should never be capitalized though, so you aren't.

Although, the cessation of existence thing is only mentioned in the anime. And I think I remember it contradicting another thing.

Ox King never learned the Kamehameha and he trained with Roshi.

Of course, he did get a power level of 900 according to two separate sources.

So he could punch things really really hard.

edited 7th May '15 6:59:05 PM by unnoun

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#16212: May 7th 2015 at 6:57:14 PM

[up][up][up]When a shinigami dies, they cease to exist. When a Hollow eats you, you cease to exist. When a Quincy kills you, you cease to exist.

edited 7th May '15 6:57:26 PM by Cruherrx

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#16213: May 7th 2015 at 6:58:32 PM

[up]Correction, when a hollow eats you you become a part of it and then are released when it's killed by a zanpakuto. Otherwise you cease to exist.

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#16214: May 7th 2015 at 6:59:55 PM

So if being killed in the afterlife means you're deader than dead and can't be revived, couldn't you just wish "I wish you to go back in time a bit, pull ____'s soul from a second before it got destroyed, and bring it to the present."?

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#16215: May 7th 2015 at 7:00:00 PM

And Pluses and Shinigami reincarnate if killed IIRC. You only outright cease to exist if a Quincy gets you IIRC.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16216: May 7th 2015 at 7:00:40 PM

I think Saiga is going to cry when he realizes he missed this conversation.

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#16218: May 7th 2015 at 7:09:54 PM

Now I'm going to point out that the Bankai is basically just a fancy Kaiou-ken: A 5-10x power boost.

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#16219: May 7th 2015 at 7:34:01 PM

At which point I will remind you that the 'Big Three' that followed Dragon Ball all took heavy inspiration from DBZ.

To quote Vegeta:

"I liked [Bleach] better when it was called Yu Yu Hakusho, and I liked that show better when it was called DRAGONBALL Z!"

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#16220: May 7th 2015 at 7:42:50 PM

[up] I certainly haven't missed that. I've also been trying really hard to not quote that line in the Bleach thread as I watch the anime.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#16221: May 7th 2015 at 7:56:28 PM

Yes, I do need more Saiga tears.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#16222: May 7th 2015 at 7:58:08 PM

Ultimate Gohan was cool, shame he only lasted a couple chapters. I wish we knew exactly why Toriyama changed his plans for him. This sort of thing sounds like textbook Executive Meddling, but Toriyama claimed he made the decision himself.

He could've just been being nice, I suppose.

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#16223: May 7th 2015 at 8:03:18 PM

Editors are, generally, a good thing. Without them, Android 20 would've been the Big Bad of the Android Saga.

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#16225: May 7th 2015 at 8:08:10 PM

[up][up][up] He just felt Gohan wasn't well-suited to the role. He wasn't exactly wrong in that, either; Gohan pretty consistently hated every moment of having the "Save the World" spotlight on him throughout the series.

[up][up] He wasn't his editor at the time.

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