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Raven666 I'd totally hug you if that was something I did from Everywhere and Nowhere. I'm watching you. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#15826: May 1st 2015 at 6:16:18 PM

So what gender is Old Kai? Female? Male? Both?! What's that called again?

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#15827: May 1st 2015 at 6:41:52 PM

You know, DB may be the only fiction I can think of where the majority of humanoid races reproduce asexually. Namekians, Kais, and Frieza-things vs. Saiyans and Humans.

What do Majins do, since I know they somehow multiplied for XV?

Raven666 I'd totally hug you if that was something I did from Everywhere and Nowhere. I'm watching you. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#15828: May 1st 2015 at 6:44:16 PM

Shoot Love-Love beams.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#15829: May 1st 2015 at 6:46:59 PM

Freeza's race is never said to reproduce asexually. Their reproduction isn't detailed at all.

Majins in DBO were born from Mr Boo splitting, like he did with the Gray Boo originally. This created Miss Boo. Mr Boo and Miss Boo were able to create a child together by tearing off and combining parts of their body before bringing it to life with "Love-Love Beam". So they had two methods of reproducing.

This is what also brought the Majin race's power level down to that of humans and Namekians, because it was the original Boo's power spread thin across the race.

edited 1st May '15 6:48:31 PM by Saiga

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#15830: May 1st 2015 at 6:49:05 PM

[up] I'm not sure what you'd qualify that as.

And I posted an interview a few pages back that said Cold was Frieza's only parent.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#15831: May 1st 2015 at 6:55:38 PM

Can you re-link that? I can't find it.

Raven666 I'd totally hug you if that was something I did from Everywhere and Nowhere. I'm watching you. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#15833: May 1st 2015 at 6:59:02 PM

[up]The witch is dead!

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#15834: May 1st 2015 at 7:00:53 PM

So you didn't look at the note at the bottom of the page? The Japanese is unclear.

edited 1st May '15 7:01:14 PM by Saiga

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#15835: May 1st 2015 at 7:01:45 PM

I didn't actually see that the first time, sorry.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#15836: May 1st 2015 at 10:50:33 PM

@Raven666: The term you're looking for is "hermaphrodite"

That being said, I assume since the Kais are apparently an asexual race that Old Kai retained his lack of physical sex even after fusing with a female witch.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15837: May 1st 2015 at 10:56:16 PM

[up] Actually, the term used by medical professionals now is usually "intersex".

Of course, I guess socially or culturally Older Kai could be agender. Seems to consider himself male though.

edited 1st May '15 10:57:05 PM by unnoun

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#15838: May 1st 2015 at 11:05:00 PM

Actually actually, in this case it would still be hermaphrodite. The original "Hermaphroditus" of Greek mythology, and source of the term, was a literal fusion between a man and a woman, just like the Old Kai, whereas "intersex" refers to a person born with atypical sex traits drawing from both genders.

While it's fallen out of use in regard to humans, the term hermaphrodite is also still used biologically for plants and animals that are naturally both sexes, like certain slugs and many trees, but that's beside the point.

edited 1st May '15 11:13:45 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#15839: May 2nd 2015 at 1:26:57 AM

I only just saw the full 'Vow of Z' music video, and now I'm like, "DBZ dance battle? Hell yes!"

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#15840: May 2nd 2015 at 4:43:50 AM

[up]That video gave me cancer.

I'm dying now.

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#15842: May 2nd 2015 at 7:47:21 AM

That tends to happen.

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#15843: May 2nd 2015 at 8:32:40 AM

So you guys were talking about King Kai's name last page. Allow me to clear things up.

First, his Japanese name isn't Kaio. You have a few ways to write it in the Latin alphabet but that isn't one of them. You have my preferred Kaiou, the possibly more common Kaiō, the somewhat less common Kaioh, and the rather rare (from what I've seen) Kaiow. Kaio would mean something completely different.

Now, King Kai's name, as written in kanji, is 界王. 界 (カイ, Kai) means "world" while 王 (オウ, ou) means "king" or "rule". As such, "World King" or "King of the Worlds" is accurate and the translators likely went with "King Kai" because it likely sounds a bit more like a name to English speakers.

As for Demon King Piccolo, the same thing is going on. It's Piccolo Daimaou or any of the other variations. Breaking down the kanji (大魔王), 大 (だい, dai) means "large, big", 魔 (マ, ma) means "witch, demon, evil spirit", and 王 means the same thing.

For the record, depending on the kanji used, "kaio" could mean world thong, world tail (like an animal, kite, or comet), or small world (or maybe world small).

edited 2nd May '15 8:35:31 AM by Zelenal

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#15844: May 2nd 2015 at 9:16:56 AM

This is one of those times in which I am glad I speak Latin Spanish.

Because to me, he's always been "Kaio-sama", and unlike English speakers, I have no trouble pronouncing 'Kaio'. Or Sama, for that matter.

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#15845: May 2nd 2015 at 9:22:29 AM

Kaiō-sama is how I read it, I just don't have a key on my keyboard for that o with the line over it.

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#15846: May 2nd 2015 at 9:23:00 AM

[up][up] Who is this World Thong of which you speak?

Also, it really isn't that hard to pronounce it.

[up] I don't know how to make the character either which is why I just spell it Kaiou-sama. After all, if you were to write his name in hiragana, those are the very characters you'd have to hit.

edited 2nd May '15 9:24:04 AM by Zelenal

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#15847: May 2nd 2015 at 1:02:45 PM

So we know it wasn't until the Piccolo Jr. Saga and the introduction of Kami that Toriyama had the idea to add aliens to the story, yes? Do we know what, if anything, Goku was intended to be before then?

Though Oolong amusingly speculates he's an alien as early as the Pilaf Saga!

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#15848: May 2nd 2015 at 1:04:22 PM

I personally have no real clue, though I'll say that I doubt Toriyama planned that out when he started, simply because I don't think he plans all that far ahead.

The one thing I know for sure that he did plan on was Gohan taking Goku's place as the hero, and that idea crashed and burned completely.

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#15849: May 2nd 2015 at 1:23:01 PM

As for Demon King Piccolo, the same thing is going on. It's Piccolo Daimaou or any of the other variations. Breaking down the kanji (大魔王), 大 (だい, dai) means "large, big", 魔 (マ, ma) means "witch, demon, evil spirit", and 王 means the same thing.

fun fact: "Maou" is so common as a name for bad guys and as a character archetype it's become a generic term for JRPG antagonists. to give you an idea that's what Magus was originally called in Chrono Trigger (another thing toriyama was involved with), they re-translated it in the DS version as "Fiendlord".

edited 2nd May '15 1:25:12 PM by wehrmacht

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#15850: May 2nd 2015 at 1:42:34 PM

Goku was originally intended to be an Expy of Sun Wukong, the Monkey King. Dragon Ball began as a parody of Journey to the West.

That's also why his family name is Son.

edited 2nd May '15 1:43:36 PM by TobiasDrake

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