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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15801: May 1st 2015 at 2:35:19 PM

I mean, Goku doesn't like it when people around him get hurt for no reason. He makes friends easily.

He doesn't go out of his way to help people, and he often lets his selfish wants and desires get the better of him. He's often driven by his selfish wants and desires more than he is by those of a more altruistic nature.

I mean, just thinking of Dragon Ball, and Upa's village. Lots of the people he met as a kid. He does seem to care. He was even merciful to Frieza, ultimately.

Goku is very simple, but as a character, morally, he's also complex.

[up] The last one Vegeta knew about was 1000 years ago.

edited 1st May '15 2:35:48 PM by unnoun

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#15802: May 1st 2015 at 2:36:25 PM

sooo.GT talk.going by the Oozaru and SS boosts,would SS 4 be around a 500x-4000x boost?

on actual matters,has the wormhole bits of Xenoverse been expanded on yet?expecting Golden Freeza to be wormhole'd too.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#15803: May 1st 2015 at 2:36:59 PM

Super Saiyan 4 is a x10 multiplier from Super Saiyan 3, so a x4000 multiplier from base.

edited 1st May '15 2:37:34 PM by VeryMelon

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15804: May 1st 2015 at 2:42:42 PM

I mean, I'm not sure Goku always necessarily grasps that his actions have consequences. Or the wants and desires of people around him.

When Piccolo explained to him that Gohan didn't like to fight like he did, and how things seemed from Gohan's perspective, Goku was, well. Shocked.

The very concept seems foreign to him.

And it's fascinating because he basically made the same mistake with Trunks and Goten when Buu happened. Because Goku doesn't quite seem to necessarily always grasp pattern recognition either.

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#15805: May 1st 2015 at 2:55:10 PM

So does the "I'm neither Kami nor Piccolo now..." keep activating and raising stats during battle or does it raise stats, wear off, than activate again? I had it activate twice during a sparring session with Pan.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15806: May 1st 2015 at 2:56:21 PM

It has some effects that are always on, and when you have full ki it regens health and with full stamina it increases defense.

Or maybe it auto-guards.

One of those.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#15807: May 1st 2015 at 2:57:59 PM

Any stat increases on a Z-Soul are permanent unless the soul itself stats otherwise. What's happening with "I'm neither Kami nor Piccolo" is both of it's effects activating once they meet there conditions. I heard it sucks now though.

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#15808: May 1st 2015 at 2:58:26 PM

Speaking of Super Saiyans, is it true that the "Only one every 1000 years" thing was a Dub-Induced Plot Hole?

Yes. It's a mistranslation. Vegeta actually said the last Super Saiyan happened 1,000 years ago. He's reciting history, not prophecy.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15809: May 1st 2015 at 3:04:19 PM

So Goku spent seven years with King Kai while he was dead, right?

Did he start telling really bad puns by accident when he got back?

I chose to believe he did.

King Kai's truly awful sense of humor is his best character trait. And his abridged incarnation being so comparatively straight-laced makes him one of the few instances where I prefer the original.

Also, one of my favorite scenes in filler is Yamcha winning King Kai over with amazingly terrible puns. It's so wonderful.

edited 1st May '15 3:10:36 PM by unnoun

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#15810: May 1st 2015 at 3:10:29 PM

By the way I'm glad I'm not the who calls him King Kai. I know it's a bit of a mistranslation since in the original a "Kai/Kaio" isn't actually a class of being but Japanese for "World King," but it's easier to type. tongue

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#15811: May 1st 2015 at 3:12:02 PM

I'm pretty sure the "o" means King. I don't speak Japanese, but sticking the "o" at the end shows up in Piccolo Daimao as well, which is translated to Great Demon King Piccolo, and I know the "ma" is demon.

So translating Kaio into King Kai to make a name out of World King seems legit.

It's better than the redundancy that is Senzu Bean, or "Sage Bean Bean". I picked up the "sen" from Kame-sennin and Karin's insistence that he's "more of a senneko".

edited 1st May '15 3:13:41 PM by TobiasDrake

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15812: May 1st 2015 at 3:13:07 PM

I sorta agree with Tien a little.

edited 1st May '15 3:13:52 PM by unnoun

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#15813: May 1st 2015 at 3:14:39 PM

It's only weeaboo if someone makes a fuss about it. tongue

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#15814: May 1st 2015 at 3:14:42 PM

Speaking of King Kai, anyone else think it's awesome that one can make him in Xenoverse? Also pretty cool that you can make Cooler.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#15815: May 1st 2015 at 3:17:39 PM

Yeah, "Kai-O" is "World King." "Kai-O-Shin" is "World King God." "Dai-Ma-O" is "Great Demon King" or just "Devil."

Basically, the "Kai" in "King Kai" isn't his name or his species, it's his job.

edited 1st May '15 3:20:10 PM by HamburgerTime

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#15816: May 1st 2015 at 3:21:15 PM

I saw a pretty good Xenoverse King Kai once.

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#15817: May 1st 2015 at 3:21:57 PM

He's really easy to make. The only thing I had trouble with was picking a good voice for him.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15819: May 1st 2015 at 3:29:12 PM

...So why exactly does Skot want to bang Bardock?

How is the Elder Kai such a pervert?

Also, doesn't that mean that Turles basically ate their fetuses?

edited 1st May '15 3:31:45 PM by unnoun

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#15820: May 1st 2015 at 3:31:22 PM

She thinks he's a hot "bad boy" type.

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#15821: May 1st 2015 at 3:31:54 PM

I could believe it. She's a pretty disappointing Stock Anime Girl.

I daresay, the Dragon Ball manga's four female characters actually managed to be better characters than SKOT.

edited 1st May '15 3:32:32 PM by TobiasDrake

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15822: May 1st 2015 at 3:32:31 PM

No, I meant.

Sexual attraction developing in species without sexual reproduction doesn't quite make a lot of sense.

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#15823: May 1st 2015 at 3:32:49 PM

Have you seen Bardock? His hotness can make anyone want to bang him, regardless of species. I'd bang him. Frieza is still and always will be the hottest though, followed by Bacterian.

And for whoever gives a fuck, my PSN ID is Adenn66. So, yeah. That info is now available.

edited 1st May '15 3:37:29 PM by Raven666

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#15824: May 1st 2015 at 3:33:40 PM

If Jabba the Hutt has taught me anything, it's that human and humanoid females are inexplicably attractive to everything.

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#15825: May 1st 2015 at 6:05:00 PM

I was gonna suggest Old Kai got it from the witch he fused with, but I recall he was already reading a girly mag right before that. Unless that was just filler.

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