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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#15751: May 1st 2015 at 11:15:22 AM

So I've decided to read DB from the beginning, and I'm enjoying it. It really picks up upon Pilaf's introduction, and the Tournament Saga was fun. I liked the various minor opponents; it's kind of a shame they didn't show up more often.

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#15752: May 1st 2015 at 11:18:43 AM

curious,can one make a wish to revive a person's soul in another vessel?

Gero's son would then be a loyal ultimate machine.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15753: May 1st 2015 at 11:59:55 AM

Surprised nobody commented on the Vegeta in Game of Thrones thing.

I don't even watch Game of Thrones and I thought it was interesting.

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#15754: May 1st 2015 at 12:09:06 PM

It's not really that difficult to guess what Vegeta would do in Game of Thrones. Provided he was Vegeta the actual Vegeta and not Vegeta the guy who is an expy of Vegeta.

He'd kill everyone and sell their planet.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15755: May 1st 2015 at 12:10:23 PM

He didn't even bother with the planet bit.

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#15756: May 1st 2015 at 12:16:47 PM

Anime filler doesn't always gel 100% with plot and characterization.

In Arlia's case, Vegeta decides against selling the planet and just blows it up for lulz instead despite there being absolutely no reason to do this beyond pointless cruelty. That's not really the problem. Vegeta's an asshole and demonstrates the same pointless cruelty on Namek.

The real problem lies in how effortlessly Vegeta annihilates an entire planet, a feat that later requires him to throw down a Galick Gun powered somewhere between Goku's x3 and x4 Kamehameha. Even Frieza had to summon a giant Death Ball to destroy Planet Vegeta, and his First Form is leagues beyond anything Vegeta could pull off at this level. Vegeta can destroy planets, but would have needed to spend a LOT more energy and effort in destroying Arlia than it is frankly worth.

Vegeta's half-assed finger-beam of planetary destruction is an accomplishment far beyond his ability to perform at this time and serves only to muddy the waters in internet debates about how much power is required to destroy a planet.

Also, Vegeta steps out of his pod in space to do it. Saiyans can't survive in space. This becomes a plot point later.

edited 1st May '15 12:21:50 PM by TobiasDrake

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15757: May 1st 2015 at 12:20:42 PM

But earlier, Goku went to the moon.

Toei: better at consistency than Toriyama.

Side-note, how did Goku not go Oozaru for the first time in the series when he did that?

I'm pretty sure he would have seen all of it. I'm just saiyan.

edited 1st May '15 12:23:39 PM by unnoun

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#15758: May 1st 2015 at 12:22:24 PM

It probably wasn't a full moon.

edited 1st May '15 12:23:24 PM by TobiasDrake

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#15759: May 1st 2015 at 12:22:40 PM

Because the Moon wasn't radiating blutz waves?

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15760: May 1st 2015 at 12:23:06 PM

The full moon was a few days later, and is just an effect of the light reflecting off the surface so that we can see all of one side.

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#15761: May 1st 2015 at 12:23:39 PM

Right, but that effect is necessary. Without it, the blutz waves weren't refracting at the right frequency to interact with his Saiyan blood and trigger the Oozaru genetic cells biology Star Trek blabbledygook.

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#15762: May 1st 2015 at 12:26:10 PM

I've always run with the theory that Arlia is a very small planet and that it's a very fragile planet, and that the Space Pod generates a small bubble of 'atmosphere' around it, in case the environment is hostile.

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#15763: May 1st 2015 at 12:26:34 PM

But he would have been a lot closer to the damned thing. And it was going to be full in like a day, tops.

I don't get the impression a lot of time passed between Boss Rabbit and Pilaf.

edited 1st May '15 12:26:48 PM by unnoun

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#15764: May 1st 2015 at 12:28:41 PM

That or Saiyans actually can breathe in space, and Goku just didn't know better.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15765: May 1st 2015 at 12:32:23 PM

It's probably the brain damage.

...Side-note, Gohan and his father's first arch-enemy would be Rice Pilaf.

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#15766: May 1st 2015 at 12:36:27 PM

...nothing can breathe in space. There is nothing in space to breathe. Being able to survive in space must be a combination of being able to withstand vacuum and not having to breathe at all - both of which Frieza seems capable of fulfilling with his bizarre alien biology that can survive being cut into giblets.

Goku needs to breathe. We've seen him gasping for breath after spending prolonged periods of time underwater before, including that very fight scene. There was also a moment in their conflict when Goku needed to find a way out of the water before he drowned, and Frieza was up top waiting to blast him the moment he surfaces.

Goku's biological need for air had a surprising amount of importance during his fight with Frieza.

edited 1st May '15 12:39:56 PM by TobiasDrake

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#15767: May 1st 2015 at 12:42:09 PM

I seem to remember Frieza panting at a few points.

Also, Goku went to the moon.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#15768: May 1st 2015 at 12:43:43 PM

I've never been under the impression that Frieza had to do the giant death ball to destroy planets, it was always my impression he just liked doing it to see the fear on people's faces when they see the giant energy ball of destruction coming towards them.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15769: May 1st 2015 at 12:45:36 PM

Or maybe he's just a Beerus fanboy.

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#15770: May 1st 2015 at 12:45:56 PM

We've seen what happens when Frieza destroys a planet without making a big enough death ball, though. It takes five minutes, decompressed for the TPB.

edited 1st May '15 12:46:16 PM by TobiasDrake

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#15771: May 1st 2015 at 12:48:07 PM

[up][up][up] That makes sense. I mean if I could make giant death balls that could blow up planets, i'd want to see the look of pants shitting terror on peoples faces. It'd be fun to watch them running around like ants on fire. I'd light them on fire first.

edited 1st May '15 12:48:25 PM by Raven666

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15772: May 1st 2015 at 12:52:25 PM

I mean, I dunno how big Namek's density was or what it was made of or the mass or the brittleness or any of the factors and physics that would go into blowing up an object completely.

All we know is that Frieza isn't that great at math.

Maybe he missed the core.

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#15773: May 1st 2015 at 12:53:26 PM

Here's your source, IANCE.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15774: May 1st 2015 at 12:55:53 PM

Maybe Vegeta didn't mean to blow up Arlia, just wipe out a lot of the population or make a big hole in it but got a lucky shot in. And decided to pretend he did it on purpose because Nappa was there.

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#15775: May 1st 2015 at 12:56:36 PM

There's a variety of factors that went into Freeza not instablowing up Namek. Some people have brought up the possible fear of not surviving the explosion. It would've destroyed his ship and left him stranded in space.

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