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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#15626: Apr 29th 2015 at 6:40:09 PM

No, that was when he was throwing the Kamehameha. What was implied was that Gohan was still superior to Cell, post Cell's Zenkai and having lost half his energy. Which implies that Gohan could've taken Cell without SSJ 2, but plotholes, potholes, bananas, who cares, right?

edited 29th Apr '15 6:40:21 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15627: Apr 29th 2015 at 6:42:14 PM

I think he could have, actually.

I mean. I think I remember a thing where Full Power Super Saiyan Gohan was stronger than Goku and as strong as Cell. He just held back and didn't want to fight because he scared himself.

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#15628: Apr 29th 2015 at 6:46:16 PM

Someone gather the Saiga Balls.

Alternatively, someone hunt down Tobias.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#15629: Apr 29th 2015 at 6:49:48 PM

IIRC, Gohan kicked Cell at one point.

And fucked his shit up. This is after Cell had spent some time knocking Gohan around, dealing absolutely zero damage per hit.

Basically, Cell was a Prinny trying to take on Overlord Zenon the entire fight.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#15630: Apr 29th 2015 at 6:57:46 PM

Kind of an exaggeration; Gohan kicked Cell and it hurt and Gohan had been taking Cells hits and been okay but it wasn't exactly zero damage. That could probably be chalked up to Gohan holding back but still.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#15631: Apr 29th 2015 at 7:01:25 PM

Gohan did more damage in one hit than Goku did in the entirety of his fight with Cell. Excluding the Instant Kamehameha Surprise, anyway.

And while Gohan was scratched all over, IIRC Goku pointed out that despite the beatdown, Gohan's ki hadn't lowered at all.

edited 29th Apr '15 7:01:53 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#15632: Apr 29th 2015 at 7:02:44 PM

Which is to be expecting, that's was why Gohan was fighting in the first place, you made it seem like Cell would keeled over in agony, when all he did was bleed a little.

It was impressive but I don't think it meant as much as you implied.

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#15633: Apr 29th 2015 at 7:20:42 PM

Oh, but it does. That was not Gohan throwing his hardest kick ever. That was Gohan when he didn't believe he could even hurt Cell.

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#15635: Apr 29th 2015 at 9:50:32 PM

It's not really clear how strong Super Perfect Cell was compared to SSJ 2 Gohan, but he did do enough damage to take out his arm when he couldn't even scratch him before the Zenkai boost.

So yea, he was at least even with him at that point. It's just the rare occasion when the decides not to fuck around and just nuke everything.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#15636: Apr 29th 2015 at 10:14:34 PM

Cell was not on a level with Gohan. Not even close. A tired and weakened Gohan with only one arm defeated him in a Kamehameha duel. And yes, while Vegeta's distraction did help Gohan, Gohan still overwhelmed Cell's kamehameha.

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#15637: Apr 29th 2015 at 10:21:12 PM

So, really, Dabura being stronger than Cell didn't mean shit.

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#15638: Apr 29th 2015 at 10:21:15 PM

pain of loss *waves hands*

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#15639: Apr 29th 2015 at 10:23:47 PM

Well, it meant that Gohan had let himself go to the point he was actually weaker than he was as an eleven years old boy.

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#15640: Apr 29th 2015 at 10:25:13 PM

Final Fantasy II rules. Raising your INT causes your STR to drop rapidly.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#15641: Apr 29th 2015 at 10:33:01 PM

Unless you're playing a remake, in which case your stats don't decrease at all.

Blech, it's all pointless anyway. All I had to do to beat the game forever was just spam Toad.

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#15642: Apr 29th 2015 at 10:35:13 PM

For example.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#15643: Apr 29th 2015 at 10:38:11 PM

I miss the days when you could actually get creative in how you equipped your characters. I liked things back when I was smart because I didn't equip anything on my mage.

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#15644: Apr 30th 2015 at 5:09:32 AM

Gohan destroyed Perfect Cell when he turned SSJ2.

He punched the Cell Jrs. and made them explode, he broke Cell's jaw, he punched Cell hard enough to make him spit up 18.

...Would Cell have gotten anything out of it if he had absorbed 18 again after he became Super Perfect?

Also, the thing about Cell's body "remembering" his Perfect form is kinda similar to Super Saiyan God.

So between the Saiyans and Frieza, what if, instead of coming back to Earth and being evil again, Cell had trained for four months?

...What if he had grabbed Gohan, Vegeta, Trunks, Chi-Chi and Tarble and did the Super Saiyan God ritual for himself?

edited 30th Apr '15 5:14:19 AM by unnoun

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#15645: Apr 30th 2015 at 5:26:48 AM

i think Cell puked 18 only because he externalized his power that much with his 100% power form.

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#15646: Apr 30th 2015 at 6:44:09 AM

[up] That is the reason given.

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#15647: Apr 30th 2015 at 6:51:59 AM

[up][up][up]What's Chi-Chi have to do with the God ritual?

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#15648: Apr 30th 2015 at 6:55:43 AM

Well, hypothetically this would be immediately after becoming Super Perfect, and.

Goten.

...Could baby Trunks and future Trunks have both done the ritual?

edited 30th Apr '15 6:56:28 AM by unnoun

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#15649: Apr 30th 2015 at 7:02:46 AM

I don't see why not. They're not the same person, after all.

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#15650: Apr 30th 2015 at 7:31:57 AM

"Now, Gohan! Let your power explode!"

Whether or not Gohan still had the power to overcome Super Perfect Cell in the Kamehameha duel is inconclusive. Cell was winning the energy clash, and while Gohan had more power he could pour into his beam, we have no way of knowing how effective it would have been without Vegeta's distraction.

Goku, being the intelligent fighter that he is, seized the opportunity of Cell being distracted by Vegeta's attack to have Gohan strike at that precise moment, and this should not be discounted in Gohan's ultimate victory over Super Perfect Cell.

However, it is also true that at the time, Gohan was operating on less than 50% of his strength as a result of taking that hit for Vegeta. Had he been at full strength and just let Vegeta die, Super Perfect Cell would have been no match for Super Saiyan 2 Gohan. It's hard to say where, exactly, Super Perfect Cell's power falls between Super Saiyan 1 and Super Saiyan 2 Gohan, but with Goku's guidance and Vegeta's distraction, Super Saiyan 1 Gohan at full strength absolutely could have replicated Super Perfect Cell's defeat.

Perfect Cell < Super Saiyan Gohan < Super Perfect Cell < Super Saiyan 2 Gohan

...Would Cell have gotten anything out of it if he had absorbed 18 again after he became Super Perfect?

His tail withers away into a little vestigial nub that birthes Cell Jrs. in his Perfect Form, presumably because it is no longer required for absorbing folks once such a state is achieved. I don't think he could reabsorb 18.

edited 30th Apr '15 7:36:22 AM by TobiasDrake

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