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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#14326: Apr 11th 2015 at 5:33:17 AM

I've mixed the "I'm neither Kami nor Piccolo" Z-Soul. I heard this was one of the better ones before the nerf, but I guess I can still use it on my Namekian.

Also I was gifted a dragonball by the system this morning.

edited 11th Apr '15 5:36:58 AM by VeryMelon

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#14327: Apr 11th 2015 at 5:54:32 AM

[up][up][up]Neither are Goku or Vegeta if you wanna make shots at character flaw shots :V They just happen to love fighting and direct towards people who threaten the planet.

Heroism is pretty secondary to fighting for Goku or Vegeta. Don't see how that makes them better people than Gohan, but ok.

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Manaic Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#14328: Apr 11th 2015 at 6:53:24 AM

Vegeta isn't even good at it. Everyone Vegeta kills is fodder and he fucks up all the time. Even fucks up in the new movie and lets the planet get blown up.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#14329: Apr 11th 2015 at 7:31:30 AM

So basically, they all suck.

Fair enough. Argument done.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#14330: Apr 11th 2015 at 7:55:56 AM

Kid Pan would have been the best mentor.

I think I would honestly rather be taught by a four-year-old than Yamcha.

This is great and also perfect.

I still wish Pan had gone Super Saiyan there, not gonna lie. It would have been great.

And. I think Goku might be a better Grandpa than he is a dad. And that's really sweet and neat.

Halloween!

I think I'm just going to keep posting about how cute kid Pan and Bra are because they're basically my favorite things in the last few episodes/chapters of the series.

The age thing is kinda confusing.

Like. When the hell is Revival of F in relation to Battle of Gods? There was four months in there somewhere.

I mean.

Heck, could the "dragon balls wished Frieza back" thing have happened before Battle of Gods? Because Frieza's minions only mention Goku fighting Buu.

If they'd told him the part where Goku fought Beerus would that have changed anything? Would Frieza have trained for five months instead? Would he have given up? I mean, I doubt it, but.

...Dammit, I know it's from GT but I like this. It's sweet.

This isn't even Gohan's final form.

A Father's Day card for Vegeta. Really cute.

Vegeta is a pretty good parent.

I like Vegeta's phobia.

So which dwarves are Krillin and Chiaotzu?

edited 11th Apr '15 8:42:59 AM by unnoun

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#14331: Apr 11th 2015 at 8:54:08 AM

I was gifted a "Why yooooou!!!" Z Soul from another player. The effect is nice, I could put it on my female human.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#14332: Apr 11th 2015 at 8:57:14 AM

Grandpa Goku is the cutest thing. I like to imagine that he thought "Well, Grandpa Gohan was great. I guess it's my turn."

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Raven666 I'd totally hug you if that was something I did from Everywhere and Nowhere. I'm watching you. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#14333: Apr 11th 2015 at 9:04:51 AM

[up][up]So does gifting only work if you have PS+ or your consoles equivalent? I've heard Dragon Balls are being gifted right now, might be nice to have them in case I need 'em.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#14334: Apr 11th 2015 at 9:05:45 AM

I have Symphonic Destruction now. I like Beerus and Whis' reactions to Super Saiyan 4 Goku.

[up]I'm on PS 3, and I don't have PS+. I'm guessing you need PS+ to gift on PS 4.

edited 11th Apr '15 9:08:35 AM by VeryMelon

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#14335: Apr 11th 2015 at 9:12:34 AM

Apparently Mira has 4 different movesets. The first 3 borrow moves from different characters, the 3rd one being the boss fight version of him, but his 4th moveset has all original moves!

His new ultimate is essentially an evil, one handed Spirit Bomb called the "Serious Bomb".

DoctorDiabolical So pure. Since: Mar, 2010
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#14336: Apr 11th 2015 at 9:40:53 AM

[up] x8 "Everyone Vegeta kills is fodder?" I'll never get that criticism.

Maybe they were fodder in the big picture (and who isn't fodder in the big picture by the end of Z?), but Zarbon, Guldo, Jeice and 19 were all credible threats at the time Vegeta took them down. Especially since Goku was absent, preoccupied, or out of commission at those times anyway.

edited 11th Apr '15 9:43:01 AM by DoctorDiabolical

Manaic Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#14338: Apr 11th 2015 at 10:22:18 AM

[up][up] I was talking about plot significance. My point was just that the only person doing the hero thing better than Gohan is Goku.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#14339: Apr 11th 2015 at 10:24:19 AM

I wouldn't say Goku's necessarily "better" really.

Goku likes fighting and being challenged a little more than he likes helping people. For Gohan it's the opposite.

I mean. Goku might not even consider trying to stop regular criminals because they wouldn't be a challenge to him.

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#14340: Apr 11th 2015 at 10:34:20 AM

That's ignoring that the effort they put in isn't what makes them good at it.

It frequently is. Gohan has all the same racial benefits Goku and Vegeta have, plus an extra one on the side - his poorly-defined Hidden Power that allows him to pull insane levels of strength out of his ass in short bursts and triggered Super Saiyan 2 for him. If you were to say Tien or Krillin were screwed by not having the same free boost opportunities that Goku and Vegeta got, that would be a fair assessment, but Gohan was handed the same unfair advantages as they had, plus more besides.

There's no reason Gohan couldn't raise his battle power insanely high by spamming zenkais over and over until he exhausted his body's ability to do that like they did. He just didn't. There's no reason he couldn't have trained for seven years until he mastered Super Saiyan 3 and effortlessly defeated Majin Buu. But he didn't. Krillin, Yamcha, and Tien are supporting characters because they got screwed out of a lot of free power-enhancing advantages that gave Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan the ability to completely overshadow them - the latter at the age of four - but Gohan's a supporting character because he's not motivated to work as hard as Goku and Vegeta do at being the most powerful warrior in the universe.

Also for Gohan's faults at being a protector it will never outdo that Goku and Vegeta are threats to everyone's safety.

This.

What makes Goku and Vegeta more qualified to be Shonen Action Heroes is that they're driven to constantly increase their battle power and fight stronger foes. What makes Gohan more qualified to be a protector is that he actually cares more about people's lives than about showing off his strength or maximizing the thrill potential of the fight.

Gohan tends to drop the ball when it's in his court, but not for lack of trying. He's well suited to be the guy flying around trying to minimize collateral damage to innocent bystanders. Goku and Vegeta are well suited to be the guys up in the villain's face demonstrating how great at violence they are.

edited 11th Apr '15 10:34:30 AM by TobiasDrake

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#14341: Apr 11th 2015 at 10:37:48 AM

Gohan is a good protector but a terrible fighter.

Goku and Vegeta are good fighters but terrible protectors.

Thing is, Goku and Vegeta are both better fighters simply because it's something they want to do and enjoy doing. But they're threats to all life on earth because both prioritize a challenging and fun fight over defending Earth from a threat. By contrast, Gohan prioritizes seeing justice done and protecting earth, but because he's, well, not actually interested in fighting, when left to his own devices he doesn't train at all.

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#14342: Apr 11th 2015 at 10:42:44 AM

This is why Great Saiyaman is actually the best thing Gohan could do. Saving people, doing good, without having to get into hyper-destructive fights or kill anyone.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#14343: Apr 11th 2015 at 10:44:12 AM

then he'd get a bald archnemesis.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#14344: Apr 11th 2015 at 10:49:36 AM

Who would be a unique enemy for Gohan, because he'd actually be someone smarter, not just stronger, and OH MY GOD THIS IS TOO PERFECT>

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#14346: Apr 11th 2015 at 11:00:58 AM

Thing is, you want someone like Goku and Vegeta who puts getting stronger as their priority to be your defender because threat's have an unfortunate tendency to show up in escalating order of power. Gohan might be more responsible than them but it means squat in the movie when Freeza one shots him while in the first form.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#14347: Apr 11th 2015 at 11:07:09 AM

[up][up]smartness is what made Cell.after years of prep time.

does this mean Super Saiyan 2 is actually Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 2?

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#14348: Apr 11th 2015 at 11:07:52 AM

I was actually talking about the "perfect" thing.

And the all-caps because Cell is loud.

edited 11th Apr '15 11:08:10 AM by unnoun

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#14349: Apr 11th 2015 at 11:12:00 AM

Oh. I thought it was about how Cell is technically bald.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#14350: Apr 11th 2015 at 11:12:29 AM

You are now thinking of Cell reacting to Gohan powering up and slaying the Cell Jrs. by saying "I would totally hug you if that was something I did!".

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