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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#14151: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:35:47 AM

You know what's my primary wish for the sequel to Xenoverse?

Better AI across the board.

Make it so the AI doesn't have to rely on bullshit Super Armor, Infinite Ki, Infinite Stamina or Bullshit High Health to be threatening. Make it so my AI companions aren't just meatshields to stop enemies from ganging up on me.

That'd be awesome.

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#14152: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:37:52 AM

You know what's my primary wish for Xenoverse?

For RN Gesus to pack his bags and go back to shitty RPGs where he belongs.

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#14153: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:37:58 AM

AI partners are garbage, I agree. Gogeta however seems more like a stepping stool to get Super Android 17.

He has no charge move, his only three unique moves are gimmicky garbage. Literally the only thing he has going for him is Meteor Chain and Super Kamehameha.

edited 9th Apr '15 10:39:16 AM by VeryMelon

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#14154: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:39:33 AM

[up][up][up]Yes! This! An idea I had the other day was set it so certain characters might focus solely on a specific person. Like if you go fight Broly with Goku, Piccolo, and Krillin, Broly will focus solely on Goku. Or something like that.

I mostly want the AI to actually force me to come up with strategies to beat them. Might make the fights more entertaining.

[up][up]That would also be a welcome improvement.

A lot of what I would love to see would turn the game into more of an Open World RPG instead of a fighting game so I won't bother mentioning my ideas.

edited 9th Apr '15 10:46:34 AM by Raven666

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#14155: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:44:04 AM

Now that I've figured out how to juggle enemies, Super Saiyan God Goku just got a lot more useful to control thanks to all his stamina. I've also figured out you could sell Hercule Badges.

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#14156: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:45:37 AM

My biggest problem with allies is that they're really useful when you're being mobbed but utterly worthless when you're the mob.

I like having backup against 3 dudes, but against 1 dude, they get in my way a lot, breaking up my combos with their attacks, knocking people out of my beams, and just generally going out of their way to pull the guy's face out of my punch.

If there was a way to tell them, like, "I got this, back off" that'd be great.

edited 9th Apr '15 10:45:59 AM by TobiasDrake

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#14157: Apr 9th 2015 at 11:06:51 AM

One thing I found them useful for in that situation is keeping the opponent occupied while you use one of the long charge time supers that deal ultimate like damage.

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#14158: Apr 9th 2015 at 11:43:16 AM

Except Dynamite Kick. God that move is worthless.

That it charges isn't the problem. The problem is that by the time it finishes charging, your allies will have knocked the opponent halfway across the battlefield, rendering the attack completely worthless.

Charge-up Beams like Kamehameha or Galick Gun don't have that significant drawback.

edited 9th Apr '15 11:43:34 AM by TobiasDrake

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#14159: Apr 9th 2015 at 11:43:28 AM

It's sad when you do AI teammates even worse than Battle of Z did.

One thing I can say in their favor, though...

At least they prioritize reviving you. Unlike those worthless idiots.

edited 9th Apr '15 11:44:26 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#14160: Apr 9th 2015 at 11:52:12 AM

Why is he so popular anyway? Is there an actual reason for it or is he popular just because?

Because back in the heyday when the series was first being localized everyone got hyped over the fact that Broly was supposed to be this supreme badass who had a Super Saiyan form different from Goku.

But yeah, can't wait for Super Saiyan Demon God Dragon Slayer Broly in Xenoverse 2.

edited 9th Apr '15 11:53:52 AM by Lionheart0

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#14161: Apr 9th 2015 at 11:55:12 AM

I heard someone call Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan "Super Cyan", and that's what I'm calling it from now on.

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#14162: Apr 9th 2015 at 11:56:39 AM

Plus, he fills a plot hole that never existed.

The hole is premised on the fact that, when we were first being introduced to the concept of the Super Saiyan, Vegeta declared it to be a thing that only happens once every 1,000 years. The Super Saiyan is a figure of prophecy, and Vegeta was all about trying to prove that HE is the One Saiyan per Millenium born to be a Super Saiyan. But then it turned out to be Goku.

But then Trunks was a Super Saiyan too! And then Vegeta was a Super Saiyan, and what's up with that, because it's a thing that only happens once a millennium! Vegeta said so!

And so, along comes Broly to fix the mess. Goku, Trunks, Vegeta, Gohan, they're all false Super Saiyans. Like, they're Super, but they're not THE LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN. Only Broly was born with such unstoppable power. HE is the legend, HE is the warrior of prophecy, HE is the solution that fixes the continuity mess that is all the other Super Saiyans.

...

Except he's not, because this entire thing is premised on a mistranslation. Vegeta didn't say it happens once every 1,000 years, he said the last Super Saiyan existed 1,000 years ago. He was reciting history, not prophecy, and there's no reason why there can't be half a dozen Super Saiyans.

edited 9th Apr '15 11:58:04 AM by TobiasDrake

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#14163: Apr 9th 2015 at 11:59:46 AM

Besides, Episode of Bardock reveals that the entire thing is based on one of Freeza's ancestors being owned by Bardock after Bardock had enough of all that stupid and asinine shark jumping bullshit.

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#14164: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:00:02 PM

To be fair, Broly's form was most likely a genetic mutation and not really anything decided by fate, just pure chance. Plus, he still got beaten by Goku, was pushed into the Sun's core by Gohan, Goten, and Goku's spirit, and let's not forget the whole Bio-Broly thing that got beaten by sea water.

edited 9th Apr '15 12:00:24 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#14165: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:02:32 PM

People ask why he's such a fan favorite all the time and I think "He is? 'Cause it seems to me, from all the people asking what's to like about him, that everyone couldn't care less about him."

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#14166: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:09:11 PM

Yes, he is. Broly is extremely popular with Western audiences, due to a combination of the aforementioned plot hole that only exists in the English version coupled with the fact that Broly represents more Western ideals of strength.

Eastern culture values smaller, more athletic fighters. This is why absurdly muscled men are typically pushovers in anime, because to Japanese audiences, being absurdly muscled means you're big, dumb, and slow - highly susceptible to the kind of precise, rapid strikes that Japanese action series revolve around. Dragon Ball itself has multiple examples of this.

To the west, however, being absurdly muscled means you're big, strong, and capable of wrecking any amount of shit. Westerners are more fixated on powerhouse action heroes who can shatter windows with the force of their pecs flexing, so seeing someone like Broly live up to how powerful we think a 15 foot giant built with a metric ton of solid muscle should be is enjoyable to Western audiences.

In short, Broly is popular in the West and reviled in the East because he's the Arnold Schwarzenegger of Dragon Ball characters.

edited 9th Apr '15 12:10:07 PM by TobiasDrake

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#14167: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:12:34 PM

Broly is boring. Forgetting Eastern or Western ideas of what a fighter should be all of his movies are boring and he himself has no personality to speak off, especially in the later ones.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#14168: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:15:16 PM

At least if he was actually Arnold he'd be entertaining.

Besides, Episode of Bardock reveals that the entire thing is based on one of Freeza's ancestors being owned by Bardock after Bardock had enough of all that stupid and asinine shark jumping bullshit.

...I didn't think Episode of Bardock was 1000 years ago.

And. Like, I don't think that's the same Super Saiyan story Vegeta heard. Or even related to it.

I think it's a mostly unrelated thing. Like, it's the reason Frieza's family is scared of Super Saiyans, but not, like, the source of the original legend or whatever.

Cheating.

Conventions.

edited 9th Apr '15 12:15:51 PM by unnoun

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#14169: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:20:42 PM

Okay, so after one fuck-up of mine I finally managed to mix Super 17's Z Soul. My Male human is going to love it.

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#14170: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:24:15 PM

I headcanon that Bardock crossbred with the progenitors of the Saiyan race at some point after Episode of Bardock - the Plant people if you prefer the Abridged version, whatever the actual ancestors of the Saiyans were if you don't - and that's how the Super Saiyan transformation was introduced to the Saiyans' genetic lineage.

Which means that, along the way, Bardock obtained the ability to become a Super Saiyan from genes passed down by Bardock.

edited 9th Apr '15 12:25:54 PM by TobiasDrake

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#14171: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:25:33 PM

I mean.

I could have sworn there was a thing where the Saiyans came from a planet other than Planet Plant/Vegeta after their first world got blown up by a Super Saiyan.

Then they came to Planet Plant and started hanging with the Tuffles.

The planet in Episode of Bardock is definitely Planet Plant/Vegeta.

edited 9th Apr '15 12:26:10 PM by unnoun

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#14172: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:54:19 PM

So I finally get 17's shirt which i've been trying to get for a while. I equip it on my female Saiyan and it looks like weird. Like it looks like they made the ascot - or whatever it is - bigger for no reason and stretched out the male version, like they couldn't be bothered to make a female model for it. I'm going to check it on one of my male characters and see if it still looks as bad.

EDIT: The ascot thing is still fucking huge but it looks exactly the same as the "female model". Guess it's to much to expect them to actually make separate outfit models for different genders.

edited 9th Apr '15 12:56:18 PM by Raven666

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#14173: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:55:11 PM

[up]x7

I don't know the extent of Broly popularity in Japan, but I doubt that they would have made 3 movies about him if he was reviled.

edited 9th Apr '15 12:56:48 PM by Cag

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#14174: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:56:30 PM

I got a full set of 17's clothes while I was trying to get his Z Soul to drop.

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#14175: Apr 9th 2015 at 12:59:31 PM

I got his soul like the second time I did the mission, it was his outfit I really wanted but kept getting parts of 18's. Guess i'll just try to get his pants now since i've already got most of his outfit anyway.

I just looked closer at 17 and I guess I was wrong, his ascot thing isn't just huge on the player, it's huge on him too. Is it supposed to be weirdly big? It kinda looks like he has orange wings coming out the side of his head when viewing him at certain angles.

edited 9th Apr '15 1:01:55 PM by Raven666

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