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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#13601: Apr 2nd 2015 at 5:38:47 PM

[up][up][up][up] He did, and when Goku used the Kaio-ken he thought he was a Super Saiyan. That's when Goku hit 180,000 and was stronger than Ginyu.

edited 2nd Apr '15 5:39:07 PM by Saiga

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#13602: Apr 2nd 2015 at 5:45:27 PM

Still, Freeza's paranoia seems kinda silly seeing as Vegeta who was already the strongest on the planet as a child had like 1/30 of the power his first form when he arrived on Earth.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#13603: Apr 2nd 2015 at 5:47:47 PM

This is all screwed up by Freeza's absolutely outrageous power.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
Raven666 I'd totally hug you if that was something I did from Everywhere and Nowhere. I'm watching you. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
I'd totally hug you if that was something I did
#13605: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:20:09 PM

So, Kai Kai or Instant Transmission? Which is better to use?

Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball Z? I prefer Dragon Ball myself though Z has it's moments.

What started out as a pleasant afternoon of drugs and surgery has not gone as planned.
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13606: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:26:21 PM

So.

Is it just me, or is the only reason Frieza's so strong that Toriyama realized he made Kaioken a multiplier earlier and Goku would handle him too easily?

And the only reason Super Saiyan is also a multiplier because he thought Kaioken was boring or?

...Like.

I dunno. I feel from a storywriting, Doylist perspective.

Something.

I had a thought and lost it.

I want to imagine that Vegeta definitely does this to Oolong sometimes. Just because he can.

I think this and this are probably pretty close to what you guys seem to think Vegeta's "actual" personality is like.

That last one has the best reaction to Krillin dying.

Babysitting.

So I heard Vegeta still doesn't beat Frieza.

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#13607: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:29:44 PM

For there being multiple super modes, well red is supposed to be a heroic color in Japan and I think they also have a myth about a golden warrior or something. So maybe he was trying to cash in both for the series' super modes?

As for them both being multipliers, well when you get down to it all power ups can be considered a "multiplier" in some form or another. Admitting how much is at least coller than just saying "They make you stronger."

edited 2nd Apr '15 6:32:58 PM by Spirit

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#13608: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:37:37 PM

There seems to be no acknowledgement of your character's sex in Xenoverse. In one scene, SKOT refers to you as "she", no matter what you are.

I have a message from another time...
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13609: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:40:04 PM

...So Majin characters in Online and Xenoverse get stronger through training.

Is that a thing that the original Buu could always do?

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#13610: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:42:02 PM

I don't see why not.

I have a message from another time...
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13611: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:44:49 PM

Seems like.

I mean.

The fact that he always resorted to absorbing shit.

...What the hell happened to those two Supreme Kais?

edited 2nd Apr '15 6:45:14 PM by unnoun

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#13612: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:50:41 PM

Presumably they were just absorbed for so long that they became a part of Buu.

My various fanfics.
Raven666 I'd totally hug you if that was something I did from Everywhere and Nowhere. I'm watching you. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
I'd totally hug you if that was something I did
#13613: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:57:42 PM

So I was bored and made this. It's nothing good but I figured I might as well post it.

http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1psozjPbJmNT5sRnB9NQ1Lw7vhq

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#13614: Apr 2nd 2015 at 7:40:33 PM

Considering Fat Buu pretty much is the Daikaioshin...

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Raven666 I'd totally hug you if that was something I did from Everywhere and Nowhere. I'm watching you. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
I'd totally hug you if that was something I did
#13616: Apr 2nd 2015 at 7:53:12 PM

I'm sticking by my idea that someone wished the Dinosaurs back.

Doesn't Male Voice 8 do that? I could swear I read on this site that Voice 8 says that at some point.

What started out as a pleasant afternoon of drugs and surgery has not gone as planned.
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#13618: Apr 2nd 2015 at 8:05:33 PM

Is it just me, or is the only reason Frieza's so strong that Toriyama realized he made Kaioken a multiplier earlier and Goku would handle him too easily?

I find it unlikely. For starters, Kaio-ken wasn't very powerful in the Saiyan arc since Goku damaged himself going to 3x. It wouldn't have caused a problem at all.

Then on Namek, even after Goku is powered up massively by his gravity training and think he can do a Kaio-ken of up to 10 times (which is potentially a problem) he'd top out at 900,000. Freeza's second form would still be stronger than him.

Freeza's ridiculousness really starts after he's done away with the transformations, and Goku didn't have anything to do with that. Goku ended up being the one who needed to catch up to Freeza.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13619: Apr 2nd 2015 at 8:07:05 PM

Freeza's ridiculousness really starts after he's done away with the transformations, and Goku didn't have anything to do with that. Goku ended up being the one who needed to catch up to Freeza.

That's actually exactly what I meant.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#13620: Apr 2nd 2015 at 8:40:03 PM

I don't know how you meant that. It seemed like you were saying the opposite, that Goku necessitated Freeza being stronger when it was the other way around.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13621: Apr 2nd 2015 at 8:42:16 PM

Well, when Goku got to Namek I don't think Frieza's second form was a thing yet.

But anyway.

I mean, there seems like there was a thing in early Dragon Ball where like.

Goku had to catch up to Mercenary Tao and King Piccolo. Catching up and surpassing his limits is a thing Goku does.

And Frieza's stupid strong strength and the way Super Saiyan works were almost a way to facilitate that.

edited 2nd Apr '15 8:45:55 PM by unnoun

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#13622: Apr 2nd 2015 at 8:48:11 PM

I know, but like I said things didn't get crazy until after that. The escalation in Freeza's first and second forms isn't really that big - he's about 4.5x stronger than his best henchman, same difference between Vegeta and Nappa in the Saiyan arc. Then he doubles his strength when he transforms, which is much more reasonable than Vegeta's Oozaru. So I think that was just Toriyama's natural escalation of things.

Freeza's strength didn't need to reach 120,000,000 for that to work out. That was just pure insanity.

edited 2nd Apr '15 8:48:47 PM by Saiga

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13623: Apr 2nd 2015 at 8:50:50 PM

I hate how meaningless the numbers are.

I mean, what, exactly, is a one?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#13624: Apr 2nd 2015 at 8:54:52 PM

[up]A baby probably. Which makes that farmer being a five seem even more pathetic and Goku only being a 10 when he was a kid even weirder.

edited 2nd Apr '15 8:55:20 PM by LSBK


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