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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13526: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:26:25 AM

...Okay, except when he deserves it.

I'm a bit irritated by how difficult getting some of the Z Souls is.

And by the fact that you need multiples of every piece of equipment for multiple characters to use it. Including the fucking Z Souls.

I like Battle of Gods a lot.

edited 2nd Apr '15 6:27:02 AM by unnoun

Bolded1 Fate, guide me from behind you!!!!!!!! Since: Mar, 2015
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#13527: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:27:20 AM

It seems that many people hated the saiyans tho, so even without Beerus or Frieza, someone would've tried to fry them.

Also, I hate how every Z-soul I has decrease the Kikohas by a huge amount. I just want to fry people with a perfect kamehameha, dammit.

edited 2nd Apr '15 6:28:10 AM by Bolded1

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13528: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:30:16 AM

Still wondering why being God of Destruction has such a high turnover rate that becoming Beerus's replacement is even an option.

...Also.

In Xenoverse, it seems like Beerus went right to the Time Nest immediately after the Battle of Gods saga.

So he went from Age 778 to Age 850.

Bolded1 Fate, guide me from behind you!!!!!!!! Since: Mar, 2015
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#13529: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:34:21 AM

They either somehow took the time machine, or Whis simply brought him and Beerus here. When you really are the most powerful character of the series, you can afford to pull up some cray stuff.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13530: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:36:17 AM

But the Time Patrol and Time Breakers don't use time machines!

Except during Parallel Quests. But those are different!

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#13531: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:36:46 AM

It seems that many people hated the saiyans tho, so even without Beerus or Frieza, someone would've tried to fry them.

I'm not sure how this is supposed to be a rebuttal. I never said the saiyans shouldn't have been killed by anyone, I just don't like the decision to retcon the story behind Planet Vegeta's destruction. Instead of Frieza blowing up the planet out of fear of a Super Saiyan. He was...ordered by Beerus to do it.

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#13532: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:37:05 AM

If Recital of F is any indication, Whis can do Weird Time Shit, so he probably helped Beerus follow PATROLLER through the scroll warp.

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Bolded1 Fate, guide me from behind you!!!!!!!! Since: Mar, 2015
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#13533: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:42:20 AM

It wasn't really a rebuttal tho, it's just that people hated them.

And yes, Frieza doing it because of Beerus is anticlimatic but we can assume that the order was just the thing he needed to push forward and end them. Or to make the audience goes all "this guy was ordering frieza around, he's some tough guy."

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#13534: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:47:57 AM

I like to think it was like

"Destroy Planet Vegeta? That's all he wants? Perfect. I'll just move that to this Space Tuesday instead of next week."

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#13535: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:58:16 AM

It wasn't really a rebuttal tho, it's just that people hated them.

So your point is that it doesn't matter who performed the saiyan genocide?

And yes, Frieza doing it because of Beerus is anticlimatic but we can assume that the order was just the thing he needed to push forward and end them. Or to make the audience goes all "this guy was ordering frieza around, he's some tough guy."

That's the main reason I don't like the retcon. Beerus is already the second strongest character in the known franchise, he didn't need that kind of Character Shilling to look like a threat, and he really didn't need to intrude on one of Freiza's best moments to do so. I also think it takes away from Vegeta and Goku's battles with Freiza on Namek(thou not make them entirely pointless, as the goal of Namek was to use the Namekian Dragonballs).

JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#13536: Apr 2nd 2015 at 6:59:27 AM

Did the movie say that? The translation I watched had Whis inform Beerus that Vegeta had been destroyed and Beerus was all like "Freeza, right? How arrogant. He better turn that ego down, or I'm destroying him."

I mean, Beerus looked pleased in Vegeta's flashback, what did he have against the Saiyans? And why would he order someone else to do it when he can do it himself, and right away?

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#13537: Apr 2nd 2015 at 7:01:04 AM

The dub had Beerus say he ordered Frieza to do it.

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#13538: Apr 2nd 2015 at 7:02:49 AM

I like to think it was as necessary as ordering Goku to eat a lot of food.

edited 2nd Apr '15 7:02:58 AM by Enlong

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#13539: Apr 2nd 2015 at 7:04:37 AM

The subs I read also had Beerus say he ordered Frieza to do it. He thought King Vegeta was rude when he visited (and in a flashback we see the king bowing and I think literally letting Beerus rest his feet on him, so that tells you what Beerus defines as "rude") so he decided he wanted the planet gone.

edited 2nd Apr '15 7:05:08 AM by LSBK

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#13540: Apr 2nd 2015 at 7:06:04 AM

Beerus has dem mood swings, maybe a stray saiyan pissed him off enough to ask for Frieza to kill the entire race, or he just felt that the saiyans were dangerous for the universe, even if he's way more dangerous than the entire rare combined, and that caring about the universe isn't his job.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13541: Apr 2nd 2015 at 7:06:31 AM

Kind of weird considering how the movie ends with Beerus not quite being a villain per se.

JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#13542: Apr 2nd 2015 at 7:07:11 AM

[up]x5: Oh, one of those dub-induced changes. That does sound very unnecessary, especially since it makes Beerus look like he sucks at his job: a God of Destruction that doesn't carry out destruction himself is laughable.

[nja]

I see other translations did that, too. Still feels dumb. Not only could he carry out destruction himself, what he considered "rude" on earth was "not having food". He was pretty much indifferent to everything else.

edited 2nd Apr '15 7:12:35 AM by JonnasN

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#13543: Apr 2nd 2015 at 7:09:17 AM

I was about to agree with it being Dub Text but then LSBK posted.

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#13544: Apr 2nd 2015 at 7:10:15 AM

I hate 17 and 18 in Xenoverse, these clowns love to gang-up on me and the ultimate is a supreme pain to avoid.

I feel your pain, future Gohan.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13545: Apr 2nd 2015 at 7:10:27 AM

He failed at killing the dinosaurs.

Beerus sucks at his job so hard.

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#13546: Apr 2nd 2015 at 7:10:40 AM

Xenoverse also takes the interpretation that Beerus ordered it.

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#13547: Apr 2nd 2015 at 7:12:31 AM

Worse is that he wakes up in BOG just to have his own fun, not to do his job or whatever if I recall.

Do you want for Whis's precious efforts to go to waste, Beerus ?

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13548: Apr 2nd 2015 at 7:17:12 AM

I mean, I guess he is basically an oversized cat. They're kind of fickle and mercurial.

...I wonder what would happen if he met Korin.

Probably not much, really.

EDIT: On the subject of Xenoverse, I think I just read that the next DLC pack will have new costumes for some of the regular characters. Including Pan.

...Kinda hope that one of them will let her go Super Saiyan.

Just. Argh.

Alternatively, a Great Saiyagirl costume would be hilarious.

...Wait, Revival of F seems to indicate that Gohan doesn't still dress up and beat up regular criminals while making wacky poses. And that Videl doesn't join in.

This is an outrage.

EDIT: Kinda wish that beating Demigra would have unlocked more things in the shop.

There are some Z Souls I really wish I had the option to just buy.

edited 2nd Apr '15 7:24:33 AM by unnoun

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#13549: Apr 2nd 2015 at 8:30:08 AM

Beerus being responsible for the destruction of Planet Vegeta does fill a Fridge Logic hole in Frieza's characterization, though: the fact that he was using the Saiyans in the first place. We know that the Saiyans were planet brokers for Frieza and we know that he destroyed their planet out of fear of the Super Saiyan legend, but what exactly happened to prompt that?

  • MONDAY: "Ahh, it's good to have Saiyans killing planets for me. They're pretty sweet."
  • TUESDAY: "Another genocide completed! Keep up the good work, Saiyans."
  • WEDNESDAY: "Ooh, the Saiyans got me a good planet today. Life is good."
  • THURSDAY: "THE SAIYANS MUST DIE! I will annihilate every last member of their entire species! Not one monkey can be allowed to live!"

Like, if they were a rival group or something, that'd make sense, but the Saiyans serving Frieza loyally until Frieza suddenly, out of nowhere, flipped the f*ck out and destroyed their planet? The hell happened?

edited 2nd Apr '15 8:30:50 AM by TobiasDrake

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#13550: Apr 2nd 2015 at 8:30:44 AM

[up]x9 I'm not entirely sure if Beerus even started the movie as a villain. I'm pretty sure he falls under Blue-and-Orange Morality.

He's a pretty cool guy. He destroys planets and doesn't afraid of anything.

[up] Maybe Frieza's race is weird biologically speaking and he was on his space period?

edited 2nd Apr '15 8:32:18 AM by Zelenal

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