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Raven666 I'd totally hug you if that was something I did from Everywhere and Nowhere. I'm watching you. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#13376: Apr 1st 2015 at 1:10:36 PM

I just named my Frieza guy Ken.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#13378: Apr 1st 2015 at 1:27:13 PM

How much energy could 18, with her perpetual energy engine, supply to a Spirit Bomb, given an arbitrary amount of time in which to do so?

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#13379: Apr 1st 2015 at 1:28:18 PM

None. She has no ki.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13380: Apr 1st 2015 at 1:31:06 PM

She supplied energy to a Spirit Bomb.

So did her brother.

In the Manga.

Her brother's scene is where Toriyama got the "he's a park ranger now" thing from.

edited 1st Apr '15 1:31:43 PM by unnoun

Bolded1 Fate, guide me from behind you!!!!!!!! Since: Mar, 2015
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#13381: Apr 1st 2015 at 1:31:32 PM

It would've been nice to have third form Frieza's head tho. I want to make some kind of ugly CAC, so much that the ally AI will be confused and will try to attack me because they think I'm on the opposite side.

We do see 17 raising his hand to lend energy to Goku's spirit bomb at the end of Z tho.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13382: Apr 1st 2015 at 1:31:58 PM

[up] Ridley Scott would have sued somebody.

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#13383: Apr 1st 2015 at 1:32:18 PM

Sure as hell didn't stop 17.

[nja]

edited 1st Apr '15 1:32:40 PM by Enlong

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13384: Apr 1st 2015 at 1:33:14 PM

Yo.

...Hell, Android 8 did it too.

...Even though Buu blew up the planet and I thought 8 was completely artificial so I guess he was brought back by the Dragon Balls?

...I mean, they wished back everyone killed by Cell. Is it possible 16 got brought back too when 17 was? I think Gohan or somebody said it wouldn't work before Cell crushed 16's head, but. On the other hand, the characters aren't necessarily omniscient.

Or Toriyama forgot and it's a plot hole.

He does that sometimes.

edited 1st Apr '15 1:49:55 PM by unnoun

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#13385: Apr 1st 2015 at 2:10:24 PM

wild mass guess16 refused to return. He's interested in seeing these so-called "birds of paradise"wild mass guess

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13386: Apr 1st 2015 at 2:13:57 PM

Would anyone know if 16 was brought back or not?

Heck, maybe he stays in the park with 17.

edited 1st Apr '15 2:14:35 PM by unnoun

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#13387: Apr 1st 2015 at 2:23:09 PM

17 and 18 could probably contribute a little bit of regular human energy just like a normal person, but I don't think their infinite energy generators would contribute.

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#13388: Apr 1st 2015 at 2:29:54 PM

As the character is never mentioned again, it's not explicitly stated that 16 was not revived - like, there was nobody going, "Man, it sure is great how everybody who isn't Android 16 is alive now," but it's pretty generally assumed that he wasn't brought back because he's full-machine; he was never really "alive" to begin with. He doesn't have a soul or anything that would tie him to a continuous existence without his body, so once the chip that his "mind" is stored on was destroyed, that's the end for 16.

Toriyama likely just had a brain-fart with 8 showing up post-destruction of Earth. It's a brief appearance during a sequence that's intended as a fun stroll down memory lane, so he probably got caught up in the nostalgia and didn't realize the plot hole.

edited 1st Apr '15 2:32:08 PM by TobiasDrake

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#13389: Apr 1st 2015 at 2:30:46 PM

Why not? If you're thinking it must be life energy, that didn't stop King Kai from warning Goku about using the Spirit Bomb while the sun's out. And it didn't stop Eighter from contributing despite being an android with no biological components whatsoever

Taking a similar line of questioning: how much energy could 18 pump into an energy ball or overcharged beam before throwing it?

edited 1st Apr '15 2:32:13 PM by Enlong

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#13390: Apr 1st 2015 at 2:32:30 PM

I think King Kai said inanimate objects can give some sort of "energy" to the spirit bomb.

Including rocks.

And also the sun.

I don't think it's necessarily "life" energy.

[up][up] I don't see why Shenron couldn't recreate a computer chip.

edited 1st Apr '15 2:33:18 PM by unnoun

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#13391: Apr 1st 2015 at 2:35:51 PM

[up][up]I'd imagine that while they never run out of energy, there's probably a finite amount they can output at a single time. Otherwise they'd be completely unbeatable.

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#13392: Apr 1st 2015 at 2:39:05 PM

17 giving energy to the Spirit Bomb is more than likely a plothole (Since Launch was the one that was originally planned to appear). Probably why the anime had him pointing a gun at poachers and having them put up their hands.

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edited 1st Apr '15 2:42:34 PM by Cruherrx

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#13393: Apr 1st 2015 at 2:41:55 PM

[up]He still raised his hand in that scene. Really him and 18 being able to donate isn't much of a plothole, they were originally human and even after becoming cyborgs still mostly human.

If we go by what Toriyama says now, they don't even have any cybernetic parts.

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#13394: Apr 1st 2015 at 2:42:45 PM

You guys should just wait for Saiga to come and solve everything. He's basically the Goku of this thread, and we're just the humans and Piccolo.

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#13396: Apr 1st 2015 at 2:44:47 PM

They have enough humans parts to, huh, have interplay and train but they are mechanical enough to be repeatedly struck by Super Saiyans and come out with ruined clothes and some scratches tho.

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#13397: Apr 1st 2015 at 2:44:55 PM

Me, duh. Rob would be Yamcha.

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#13398: Apr 1st 2015 at 2:45:00 PM

I don't see why Shenron couldn't recreate a computer chip.

He probably could, but it'd need to be a separate wish from "Restore life to folks who died!" for the same reasons why he doesn't rebuild the Cell Games Arena that got blown up or such. For the purpose of resurrection, Android 16 is an object, not a person.

[up] I'm Vegeta, aren't I?

edited 1st Apr '15 2:45:21 PM by TobiasDrake

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#13400: Apr 1st 2015 at 2:46:58 PM

I'll accept that.

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