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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#13076: Mar 30th 2015 at 1:59:47 PM

Wait, if Mook can beat Piccolo, does that mean he's stronger than Frieza used to be back on Namek?

Also, kinda sad that there doesn't appear to be any Ginyu Force inspired soldiers in the film.

edited 30th Mar '15 2:01:52 PM by Cortez

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#13077: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:04:08 PM

[up][up][up] i'd only assume that if i assumed the entire movie was mandated by Toei and halfassesed by Toriyama out of spite.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#13079: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:08:38 PM

Nah I just assume Toriyama is genuinely failing here.

Also Gohan getting one-shot by first form Freeza is bad but apparently the red guy Piccolo can't beat is comparable to Zarbon.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#13080: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:11:20 PM

Did Piccolo split from Kami and Nail offscreen? tongue

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#13081: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:13:38 PM

he's become a shut in and didn't get enought fluids and light.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#13082: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:15:19 PM

Actually, I can believe Gohan losing to Power Restrained Frieza, if only because Frieza's true form is supposed to be more powerful than every form of Buu, including Buuhan. Considering Gohan is significantly weaker than he was during the first part of the Buu Saga, to the point where he can only use Super Saiyan now, it's not that much of a stretch to assume Frieza could pull this off.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#13083: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:15:31 PM

The red guy trained for four months.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#13084: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:18:10 PM

What the hell, Freeza's power level is 1.37 million. That's like he's second form on Namek. If they are going to bother with giving an exact numerical value, they should at least make sure it's not contradicting stuff.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#13085: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:20:00 PM

Freeza's base gained around a 2.4x boost.pitiful.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#13086: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:24:49 PM

Oh my God, this is so stupid.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#13087: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:28:59 PM

i guess this movie is meant to start off the whole 12 universes-gods deal.Freeza was their first actual test of Godly power.

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#13088: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:33:27 PM

...maybe they're measuring in kili?

Because otherwise, that is the stupidest thing. It would put Frieza's 100% at a little over 310 million, which just seems pitifully low for this point in the series.

edited 30th Mar '15 2:35:32 PM by TobiasDrake

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#13089: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:35:12 PM

well,if Golden Freeza is 50x/100x his 100%,is it feasible?

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#13090: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:37:13 PM

Even if we assume Goku never gained another ounce of battle power since defeating Frieza, Super Saiyan 3 would put him at 1.2 billion, and Beerus effortlessly oneshotted Super Saiyan 3 Goku.

If Golden Frieza is sufficiently high like the Super Saiyan multipliers, that could make it work, but it would still mean that Frieza is woefully outclassed until he transforms into it. I guess it depends on whether Frieza has any instances of fighting Goku and Vegeta prior to becoming Golden.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#13091: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:39:41 PM

Well, we know Gohan has to be over 40,000,000 just from the manga alone (Freeza's over 1 million in 2nd form, Goku's stronger than that, Freeza's 50% matches Goku x 20, Piccolo is stronger than 100% Freeza and while rusty Gohan is still stronger than him) so even if it is the first form, still too low.

Unless you want to argue that this trumps multiple things in the manga like some on Kanzenshuu. At that point, might as well toss out all the manga numbers and be effectively using a different scale.

[up] he does. One shots Gohan in his first form, fights Goku in his final form (not even 100%) and while he's losing, still putting up a fight.

edited 30th Mar '15 2:40:59 PM by Saiga

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#13092: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:40:21 PM

I think 1.37 million is actually supposed to be for Golden Freeza. :|

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13094: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:42:05 PM

Frieza in his first form one shots Gohan as a Super Saiyan.

I win.

Saiga and Tobias lose.

Forever.

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#13095: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:42:37 PM

Oh, wow. I can't believe they got that so wrong.

Time to ignore that. Not that I cared about power levels to begin with.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
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#13096: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:43:26 PM

Is Gohan a Super Saiyan when he gets oneshotted?

Because that would require his battle power to have decayed lower than 27,400, making him weaker than the Ginyu Force. It would mean Krillin is now more powerful than Base Gohan.

edited 30th Mar '15 2:44:09 PM by TobiasDrake

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#13097: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:43:44 PM

Oh wow, this is sounding pretty awful.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#13098: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:44:35 PM

[up][up]That's what happens when you read books instead of training.

Stay out of school kids!

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#13099: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:44:49 PM

This is now my favorite Dragon Ball movie.

Your nerd tears shall sustain me for ages.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#13100: Mar 30th 2015 at 2:46:21 PM

@SSJ 3 GOJIRA

Right, so i can see him getting one shot by first form Friez, since he's stronger now anyway.


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