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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#12976: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:02:59 PM

What Krillin did was stupid. Definitely. But I can at least understand why he did it. Having to kill an innocent person, one who didn't seem that evil, to save the world from a threat that may or may not end up being serious...you have to have no conscience whatsoever to do it without hesitation.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#12977: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:04:15 PM

Didn't 18 also beat the shit out of his friends?

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#12978: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:05:22 PM

Kinky.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#12979: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:05:25 PM

[up][up][up] That wasn't the moral dilemma Krillan faced and you know it. Krillan finally had the chance to get some and he couldn't pass it up.

And his risk paid off fantastically.

edited 29th Mar '15 9:05:56 PM by Zelenal

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#12980: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:05:30 PM

[up][up][up]Well, she beat the shit out of Vegeta, who attacked them, and then defended herself when Trunks jumped in.

edited 29th Mar '15 9:06:09 PM by LSBK

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#12981: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:06:45 PM

I like how you prefaced your words with the fact that you knew you're wrong.

The biggest reason why you're wrong is that training in Super Saiyan does benefit the base form, as well. In fact, it might actually be more beneficial to train as a Super Saiyan. Vegeta and Trunks seem to have trained in base form, and the gulf between the benefits Goku and Gohan got from training and what the former got is gigantic.

Think about it like this:

As Super Saiyans, they're pushing themselves more, and the more they push, the more results they get. The concept of 'Overtraining' doesn't exist in the DBZ world.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#12982: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:06:50 PM

Does 18 even kill anyone at all in that timeline?

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#12983: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:08:57 PM

[up][up]I knew putting that was a good idea. I always thought that Super Saiyan was more like a power multiplier and that was it but wasn't 100% sure so yeah. Guess I was wrong, whatever. Happened before and it'll happen again.

edited 29th Mar '15 9:09:43 PM by Raven666

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#12984: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:09:14 PM

[up][up] actually don't think so. At least, I remember how in DBZA, Vegeta ends up killing people while trying to get 18, while 18 doesn't hurt anyone. And the only person she fought started the fight himself. So, I dunno.

edited 29th Mar '15 9:09:28 PM by LOLypop1224

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#12985: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:10:26 PM

In the main series timeline?

I believe she does not.

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#12986: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:13:05 PM

17 and 18 don't kill anyone in the main timeline, Gero aside.

That being said, they were fully intent on murdering Goku and anyone who tried to get in their way, so it wasn't for a lack of trying. Intent matters.

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#12987: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:14:00 PM

You know, I had a great idea of how they can beat Freeza in the new movie, even if Freeza is stronger than them.

Freeza is beating them, (first Goku, then Vegeta, and then both of them at once), until he reverts to his normal form. And Goku theorises that he didn't understand the limitations of his own body to realise there was some sort of flaw in Golden Freeza, and he couldn't maintain it indefinitely.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#12988: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:15:32 PM

[up][up] You mean like how Vegeta doesn't kill anyone in the Saiyan Saga?

[up]x5 Super Saiyan is a power multiplier. It increases a Saiyan's base Power Level by a factor of 50. Super Saiyan 2 increases it by a factor of 100 and Super Saiyan 3 increases it by a factor of 400.

edited 29th Mar '15 9:15:46 PM by Zelenal

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#12989: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:19:02 PM

That's right. Super Saiyan is a power multiplier. Which doesn't change anything at all.

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#12990: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:19:41 PM

I don't think I was clear with how I interpreted it. I thought it was only two things a power multiplier, and a new hair style. I thought it multiplied your base power then when turning back you were the same as before. Like really it was the same as taking some attack boosting potion or whatever in a video game and then after the fight having your attack power go back to hat is was pre-potion. So I saw it as a temporary boost that did nothing once the Saiyan turned back.

I really hope i'm not misunderstanding what's being said. That'll be embarrassing.

edited 29th Mar '15 9:20:54 PM by Raven666

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#12991: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:20:59 PM

Man, that Narrator just seems wrong for some reason. I am not looking forward to hearing that guy when I finally get around to watching GT.

The GT Narrator scared me as a kid.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#12992: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:26:13 PM

[up][up] If you use a temporary Strength Up in a video game and then gain a level that raises your Strength while it's in effect, does your Strength go back to what it was before you leveled up after the Strength Up wears off?

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#12993: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:27:27 PM

... Yeah, that is how it works. Thing is, it doesn't prevent you from levelling up while you're using it.

Think about it like this:

Your attack is 100. You level up your Attack every time you deal 50000 damage. You can punch 500 times to level up your Attack Stat.

However, if you drink an Attack Boost potion, letting you deal more damage, the 'damage you need to deal before your next level up' doesn't expand accordingly. Meaning, when you drink that Attack Boost potion, and start dealing, say, 500 damage per hit, you will level up five times faster because you're dealing damage five times faster, requiring you to land 100 punches instead of 500. Then, after you gain the level up and the potion wears off... the level up is still there.

Sure, it'll be divided by 5 since that was the boost the potion gave it, but it's still the same level up that you would've gotten without the potion. The difference is that you obtained it much, much faster.

Does that make more sense to you?

edited 29th Mar '15 9:28:32 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#12994: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:28:11 PM

Prepare yourselves, FOR THE NEXT LEVEL.

Saiyan's Beyond God?

I kind of wanted Goku's to stay red and Vegeta's be blue but I'm ok with this.

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#12995: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:29:15 PM

[up][up] Yeah, that makes sense. Thanks. Also, thanks for actually helping me to understand it, most people just prefer to insult my intelligence and move on with their lives.

edited 29th Mar '15 9:31:20 PM by Raven666

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#12996: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:32:20 PM

[up] Then let me rephrase the question: Would it make sense for it to take away the points gained by your level up?

Also, the temp boosts can be insanely helpful even if you could defeat the boss (Because why would you use them on anything other than bosses or Bosses in Mook Clothing?) since they'll make the boss that much easier and that a lot less time to defeat.

EDIT: Hey, I wasn't insulting your intelligence. I was just presenting my explanation using your own example. I'd rather pose another question that will help someone understand on their own than go through a lengthy explanation.

edited 29th Mar '15 9:34:32 PM by Zelenal

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#12997: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:38:24 PM

I was referring to people i've talked with and actually know. Should have included you when I said thanks. So i'll do so now, I thank you for helping me understand and correct my mistakes instead of just insulting me and moving on.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#12998: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:49:42 PM

Didn't 18 also beat the shit out of his friends?

To be fair, most of them deserved it.

MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
#12999: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:52:10 PM

What Krillin did was stupid. Definitely. But I can at least understand why he did it. Having to kill an innocent person, one who didn't seem that evil, to save the world from a threat that may or may not end up being serious...you have to have no conscience whatsoever to do it without hesitation.

Spot on, spot on.

edited 29th Mar '15 9:52:51 PM by MsCC93

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#13000: Mar 29th 2015 at 9:55:03 PM

I really like Krillin and I wish he could've gotten more powerups. Humans seem to be by far the weakest of the major races we see. There's virtually no upside to being one as opposed to a Saiyan, Namekian, or a whatever-Frieza-is.


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