So, Shin Budokai has reached levels of fucking bullshit.
Versus Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan.
Limited to Kaioken (which is mispronounced for some godforsaken reason) Goku.
With Gohan using that fucking chase (which I have no idea how to do and can't reliably escape) every time I blink.
And blocking or dodging damn near all of my Supers.
And my Ultimate may as well be just for show.
And did I mention that he blocks or dodges a lot of my regular attacks too?
I can't even get the fucker down to red health! I can barely even get him down to green!
And the translation is simply terrible.
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Without Namek the Androids never would have been anywhere near as strong as they got.
edited 26th Mar '15 4:52:25 PM by TheAirman
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Shin Budokai is the PSP one that starts as Fusion Reborn but then goes Off the Rails as holes in space-time start opening up and you get people from alternate universes showing up (including Future Trunks). Also, with the Otherworld messed up, nobody stays dead.
And Super Perfect Cell is somehow stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks but not SSJ2 Teen Gohan.
And Frieza stands up to SSJ Gohan.
And Broly... Fuck Broly.
But the Buu Saga does happen to Future Trunks, I do believe.
Really, this game's story is absolutely retarded.
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Shin Budokai was the adaptation of Fusion Reborn, Another Road was the Future Trunks one.
I quite liked the story, thank you very much. And you still haven't thanked me for answering your song question.
edited 26th Mar '15 5:29:27 PM by Ssj3Gojira
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!Good god! Put that thing away!
Did we ever get a good idea of how strong the Supreme Kais really were? I keep wanting to put them up against Bojack's gang for some reason.
One Strip! One Strip!South Supreme Kai put up a good fight against Kid Buu, so I'd put him at maybe SSJ 2 level. Otherwise, no clue.
- 1 - Piccolo
- 2 - Buu
- 3 - Goku
- 4 - Android 18
- 5 - Tenshinhan
- 6 - Trunks (Future Trunks, of course)
- 7 - Krillin
- 8 - Cell
- 9 - Mr.Satan
- 10 - Android 16
Followed by Videl, Gohan and Daimao.
I'm kind of surprised Cell, Hercule and Gohan got so high. My true appreciation for these guys really showed on that poll.
Here's the rest of my poll.
- 11 Videl
- 12 Dende
- 13 Kibito Kai
- 14 Android #18
- 15 Taopaipai
- 16 Supreme Kai
- 17 Dabura
- 18 Piccolo Daimao
- 19 Trunks
- 20 Goten
- 21 Bulma
- 22 Krillin
- 23 Master Roshi
- 24 Fortuneteller Baba
- 25 Korin
- 26 Captain Ginyu
- 27 Freeza
- 28 Cell
- 29 Elder Kai
- 30 Yajirobe
- 31 Nappa
- 32 Mr. Popo
- 33 General Blue
- 34 Chaozu
- 35 Android #17
- 36 Lunch
- 37 Dr. Gero
- 38 Android #19
- 39 Whis
- 40 Oolong
- 41 Babidi
- 42 Raditz
- 43 Pilaf
- 44 Chi-Chi
- 45 Yamcha
- 46 Mr. Satan
- 47 Beerus
Took it again. It was really hard in places because I haven't read all of Dragon Ball (I think I got up to the first Tenkaichi Budokai) and I haven't seen Battle of Gods. Here's my Top 15:
- Goku
- Vegeta
- Trunks (Future, of course)
- Piccolo
- Gohan
- Android #18
- Frieza (Watching Kai has made me realize how great of a villain he is)
- Dende
- Krillin
- Cell
- Chi-Chi
- Master Roshi
- Tenkaichi Budokai Announcer
- King Kai
- Videl
Seems about right.
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Saying 'at the level of a SSJ 2' like it actually means something.
'Cuz, I can tell you right here, if Goku had gone SSJ 2 in early Dragon Ball, he'd get his ass creamed by Vegeta circa Saiyan Arrival regardless.
You're saying he's at the level of a multiplier. The Super Saiyan transformation is not a level of power.
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I wouldn't say that. A x50 multiplier is a lot larger than a x3 multiplier.
edited 26th Mar '15 7:28:38 PM by Zelenal
Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!Which is interesting because of how much easier Trunks Prime has it transforming than Future Trunks. If true, this would imply that Vegeta had become a Super Saiyan by the time he and Bulma conceived Trunks, but NOT Future Trunks. The main difference between the two timelines for Vegeta is that he was training for the Androids in the Prime timeline, which may have pushed him to transform faster?
In Future Trunks's timeline, Vegeta's transformation was sparked by grief over Goku's tragic death, and the knowledge that he will never be able to test himself against Goku again; Goku died unsurpassed, and Vegeta will always wonder.
Saying 'at the level of a SSJ 2' like it actually means something.
'Cuz, I can tell you right here, if Goku had gone SSJ 2 in early Dragon Ball, he'd get his ass creamed by Vegeta circa Saiyan Arrival regardless.
You're saying he's at the level of a multiplier. The Super Saiyan transformation is not a level of power.
Thank you for this.
edited 26th Mar '15 7:40:53 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Early Dragon Ball means kid Goku.
Who is nearly 2000 times weaker than Saiyan arc Vegeta.
@HT The Red Ribbon was huge, and according to a guidebook a previous rival of Capsule Corp. As we know, Capsule Corp has pretty amazing technology.
main timeline Trunks didn't appear to have it easier than future Trunks in the manga. Future Trunks was a Super Saiyan from a young age as well, he was just weak because nobody trained him.
Prime Trunks is so strong because he mastered Super Saiyan sparring with Goten. Future Trunks never had that.
edited 26th Mar '15 7:40:54 PM by Saiga
Even at the time Raditz arrived on Earth and most of the fanbase started watching the show, Goku's battle power was 416. As a Super Saiyan 2, he would have a battle power of 41,600 - about Ginyu level, but I should think the Supreme Kais are a bit more impressive than that.
Until he was killed by the Androids, Future Trunks had Gohan.
edited 26th Mar '15 7:41:49 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I'm fine with the goofiness but I agree that the Androids' battle power strains suspension of disbelief.
Yes, they were a rival of Capsule Corp, but I wouldn't expect Bulma to be able to build a robot from scratch with a battle power of several hundred million either. 8 was amazing for the point in the story where he existed, but that point considered characters with battle powers less than 200 to be unspeakably powerful.
edited 26th Mar '15 7:51:24 PM by TobiasDrake
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I gotta say, making Gine in Xenoverse has made the game enjoyable again. Having her beat the crap out of Final Form Frieza, Perfect Cell, and Kid Buu with nothing but two Saibamen to assist her is just awesome. Who's weak now motherfucker?!
EDIT: I was wondering, among the many 'What if?' stories present in the games, is there one where the Saiyans successfully take down Frieza? I feel like that'd kinda screw things up for Goku and the others. Sure Raditz might still come to Earth but why would Vegeta and Nappa bother? I doubt Earth would even get attacked...I'm 40% sure it wouldn't get attacked. No Saiyan attack, no trip to Namek, no power increases, good chance the Androids would either kill everyone, or if Buu was awakened, he kills everyone. Guess Frieza saved the Earth by nearly wiping out the Saiyans.
edited 26th Mar '15 4:40:42 PM by Raven666
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