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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#12576: Mar 25th 2015 at 1:33:13 PM

I double checked and apparently Goten and Trunks are sitting out due to looking like the two who killed Frieza (Goku and F. Trunks) and overdoing attacks.

I guess that makes sense, but I don't know.

edited 25th Mar '15 1:34:14 PM by Rinsankajugin

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#12577: Mar 25th 2015 at 1:37:14 PM

But doesn't Goku look like Goku? If Goten is sitting out due to looking like his father, Goku should sit out due to looking like himself.

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#12578: Mar 25th 2015 at 1:39:41 PM

Better Frieza fight the guy he's actually looking for instead of killing everyone to find him.

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#12579: Mar 25th 2015 at 1:56:25 PM

[up] That.

It was a bad idea to make Gohan fight Cell that was justified only by his incredible power outweighing even Goku's. It was a bad idea to have Gotenks fight Majin Buu that was justified only by Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan all being out of commission, leaving only the children as the last remaining Saiyans left to fight. Sending the children to fight the adults' battles is a terrible thing to do.

Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan are all available to carry their own damn weight against this menace. Goten and Trunks should be a last-resort option.

edited 25th Mar '15 1:56:58 PM by TobiasDrake

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#12580: Mar 25th 2015 at 2:01:10 PM

That and they'll be fighting on a level beyond anything they're capable of as Gotenks.

Anyone want to see the story of Future Trunks fleshed out? Like what happened after he returned and killed the Androids/Cell?

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#12581: Mar 25th 2015 at 2:04:40 PM

What's to flesh out?

He killed the Androids and Cell, and then none of the other things that threatened the main timeline apply to his world now barren of powerful fighters, so the rest of his natural life was spent on reconstruction.

Majin Buu was never revived because there's nobody as powerful as 200+ Gohans to get the energy from. Beerus took one look at the Earth and went, "Guess Super Saiyan God's never happening." Frieza was never resurrected because Shenron is gone and nobody knows where New Namek is. Despite the popular anime convention of "There is ALWAYS a new threat!" nothing exciting ever happened again.

edited 25th Mar '15 2:07:59 PM by TobiasDrake

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#12582: Mar 25th 2015 at 2:13:45 PM

x4 [up]

Yeah I guess that's a good reason. Still, I kinda wish they'd at least get to fight Frieza's army or something. I just like Goten.

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#12583: Mar 25th 2015 at 2:18:19 PM

If Baba is still around then they have access to Otherworld which means that they'd have access to King Kai who'd know where New Namek is. If they know where New Namek is then they can get in touch with Dende and get new Dragon Balls (or use their Dragon Balls). I don't know if there's a time limit on reviving people with the Dragon Balls but, if nothing regarding that has been mentioned, then it'd be easy to set the time limit to being close to whatever the time skip between the Cell Saga and the Buu Saga was in order to keep things interesting (so only Gohan would be revived). From there, coming up with new threats would be child's play.

Also, Dragon Ball Heroes, I think, showed the Buu Saga still happening since Future Trunks went Super Saiyan 3 in it.

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#12584: Mar 25th 2015 at 2:22:21 PM

Dragon Ball Heroes shows a lot of things that never happened. In DBH, I'm pretty sure even Bardock's a Super Saiyan 4 at this point. It ran out of canon characters a long time ago and has been having a ton of fun with What If scenarios for years.

If Baba is still around, they have access to the afterlife. That's already a significant "If". The next "If" is whether she is both willing and capable of running the length of Snake Way to even reach Kaio-sama.

There is a time limit on mass resurrections, but none on singles. I'm reasonably sure Porunga can't do mass revivals at all, but he gives three wishes instead of one, so there's that. However, reaching him is completely unfeasible for the reasons mentioned above. Nobody knows where New Namek is, nobody has a spaceship that can get to New Namek, and nobody who has the ability to contact Kaio-sama is alive.

What it boils down to is that everyone's dead, everyone's staying dead, and everything that threatens the Earth following the Android Saga is strangled in its crib by the fact that everyone's dead, and that's why there are no further stories taking place in Future Trunks's world.

edited 25th Mar '15 2:25:40 PM by TobiasDrake

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#12585: Mar 25th 2015 at 2:30:54 PM

You guys seem to forget that Babidi went to Earth in the first place because Majin Buu's sealed state was hidden there, meaning Babidi would still need to go there if he wants to get Majin Buu's egg.

edited 25th Mar '15 2:31:06 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#12586: Mar 25th 2015 at 2:33:07 PM

Man I would totally love having a lil island house like Roshi's got. So long as I had a way to head to the mainland, it'd be awesome.

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#12587: Mar 25th 2015 at 2:33:55 PM

Yeah, but where's he going to get the energy to revive it? The Ginyus are impossibly powerful by the standards of the universe, and 100 Buu-era Gohans is only enough energy for less than half of Buu's revival meter. You're looking at trying to assemble an amount of Good Energy equal to over 200 Gohans in a universe where a battle power of 30,000 is considered incomprehensibly strong. The standards Babidi has to work with are so low that he still considers 10x gravity to be a major hindrance to his foes.

Restoring Majin Buu is an impossible task made possible only by the existence of Super Saiyans whose power had long since outstripped even the gods themselves.

edited 25th Mar '15 2:38:36 PM by TobiasDrake

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#12588: Mar 25th 2015 at 2:39:17 PM

[up] He gets the energy from Trunks and anyone else still alive on the planet, before taking the ball holding Majin Buu with him to other planets to steal their energy to help free him. There are literally trillions of other planets in this universe, and the series never left the Northern Quadrant; there are still three other quadrants he can go to.

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#12589: Mar 25th 2015 at 2:42:06 PM

Trunks has barely enough energy to make a dent. If he's reduced to taking power from civilians to try to make up over 200 Gohans of energy, one at a time via that power stealer thing he has, and only being able to steal from those who are Good...the Heat Death of the Universe is going to happen first.

edited 25th Mar '15 2:43:26 PM by TobiasDrake

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#12590: Mar 25th 2015 at 2:46:28 PM

Well, he had time. He waited millions of years to get to that point didn't he? It's not like Babidi was short on patience.

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#12591: Mar 25th 2015 at 2:51:27 PM

I kind of like Bulma going out her way to actually keep the children out of the fight this time. Kind of follows up on a good moment from her in the Buu saga.

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#12592: Mar 25th 2015 at 2:52:56 PM

You know, you have a sever lack of imagination.

What's to say that Baba couldn't find a way to contact Goku or Gohan or Piccolo or Tien or any of the other Z Fighters? Given what Goku does in canon, it's unlikely that any of them chose to go to Heaven but instead went to other places in the Otherworld to train. As for the space ship, if Bulma can build a freaking time machine while under the constant threat of the Androids, she can build a space ship when doesn't have constant doom hanging over her head.

Also, unless canon has directly stated that there is no time limit on single revivals then it's very easy to say otherwise. Alternatively, given that about 17 years have passed since most of them died, the Z Fighters may just choose to stay dead and leave the safety of the world to Trunks and maybe Gohan.

Given how time works in this series, literally anything is theoretically possible. Coming up with ways to continue Future Trunks' story is child's play.

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#12593: Mar 25th 2015 at 2:53:13 PM

He'd have more luck just trying to cut his losses and menace the universe with Dabura, who is as powerful as Perfect Cell.

[up] Sure, if you really wanted to continue it, you could come up with all sorts of fanfictions about what happened, but those are fanfictions. I'm talking about what happened, and what happened is that nothing happened because the story of Trunks's world ended there.

One could say that Oolong built a spaceship from various parts of Capsule Corp and flew to New Namek himself guided only by the scent of Dende if one wanted to. But he didn't. Trunks returned to his timeline, defeated the threat to his world, and then all other threats that came along in the main timeline were prompted by the presence of characters who are dead in Trunks's timeline. If someone really wants to try and shoehorn Buu or Beerus or whatever into Trunks's timeline, they can invent whatever reasons they want to close all the many reasons why it couldn't happen, just like someone could come up with ways to fit Cooler or Broly into their fanfic if they really wanted to.

But it never happened in the canon.

edited 25th Mar '15 2:58:31 PM by TobiasDrake

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#12594: Mar 25th 2015 at 3:00:23 PM

I wish they tried to phase out Gotenks. He only really works in a comedy situation. And that, in itself, makes Goten and Trunks as fighters only comic relief. The problem is, now, if Goten and Trunks fight, there's no reason for them NOT to fuse.

Maybe if they make another movie, they'll have one of them there, and not the other. That way we know Gotenks won't show up.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
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#12595: Mar 25th 2015 at 3:05:31 PM

[up][up] I'm sorry. I've been out of touch with Dragon Ball for an awfully long time. If you could provide a link to an official source stating that nothing of interest happens in Future Trunks' timeline, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Also, I'd like to point out that Xenoverse and DBO both showed something that could have happened to Future Trunks after he did his thing and Akira Toriyama himself worked on DBO's plot.

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#12596: Mar 25th 2015 at 3:09:54 PM

Except Beerus does exist in Future Trunks' timeline, so there isn't really anything stopping him from killing Dabura and Babidi if he starts thinking they're getting too cocky and/or infringing on his territory.

edited 25th Mar '15 3:10:08 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#12597: Mar 25th 2015 at 3:10:30 PM

Nothing of interest happened in Trunks timeline since his manga story ends with the narration stating that there is peace now and that the cities will rebuild over time. DBX even has Future Bulma sending tons of droids and supplies to Toki Toki that she didn't have access to when the world was crap to take a probably not canon example.

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#12598: Mar 25th 2015 at 3:17:52 PM

[up][up] That's true, though he could certainly do the same with Majin Buu as well. Buu is a joke compared to Beerus.

edited 25th Mar '15 3:18:14 PM by TobiasDrake

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#12599: Mar 25th 2015 at 3:22:26 PM

[up] Isn't everything other than apparently Golden Frieza and Whis?

[up][up] I don't see why it wouldn't be canon to a degree. Again, given how time works in Dragon Ball, pretty much anything can happen. Just like in the Nasuverse, the question is less "Is this canon?" and more "Is this true in the main timeline?"

The answer to that question as far as the plot of XV is concerned is likely to be "No." The existence of Future Trunks as a Time Patroller is likely to be "Yes" due to DBO.

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#12600: Mar 25th 2015 at 3:47:12 PM

So... Do you guys reckon Super Buu + Gohan + Goten + Trunks + Piccolo + Vegetto would've been enough to take on Whis?

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