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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#12276: Mar 19th 2015 at 3:42:36 PM

I'm sure everyone has done something in the 80s that they would look back on and regret.

It just turns out that Toriyama's done more than most is all.

...Kidding aside, I mean.

Wow. That is really and truly awful.

...Equally, even if Toriyama hadn't done that, I mean. That doesn't make issues in his other work not exist, either.

I'm always leery about putting too much emphasis on the author with regards to these sorts of things.

I mean.

...Okay, no, wait, I think my critical faculties have shut down temporarily because what the actual fuck!?

Raven666 I'd totally hug you if that was something I did from Everywhere and Nowhere. I'm watching you. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
I'd totally hug you if that was something I did
#12277: Mar 19th 2015 at 3:44:29 PM

Japan likes rape? It seems like most of what comes out of Japan involves underage looking women in erotic poses/situations, tentacles doing things with people, and women used only for sex or to stand around looking hot.

I'm aware that's not completely true. This is a bad attempt at a joke.

Also, what the hell is an Albino Namekian (meaning is it something from the show and/or manga) and who's Brian? I had a few friends go on about how they can finally make an Albino Namkeian, Brian and Albino Brian. I asked them but they said I used up my 'stupid questions' when I asked what the big deal over Male Voice 8 was.

What started out as a pleasant afternoon of drugs and surgery has not gone as planned.
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#12278: Mar 19th 2015 at 3:46:07 PM

Albino Namekians are based on a joke from Dragon Ball Abridged.

...I mean.

Goddammit Japan.

I normally try not to single out countries, given that I'm a U.S. citizen and have lived in the U.K. and really have no room to talk, but damn.

edited 19th Mar '15 3:47:15 PM by unnoun

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#12279: Mar 19th 2015 at 3:48:16 PM

And Brian is from this.

what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#12280: Mar 19th 2015 at 3:48:36 PM

I want to be charitable and say that it's drawn equivalent of an awful, sexist joke one might tell without actually thinking like that but this is just so crude.

"Haha, women are incompetent!"

"Haha, she got raped... twice."

"Haha, women only care about money and will gladly whore themselves out for it!"

Not the proudest moment for Toriyama for sure.

......

Albino Namekians were well, Namekian Albinos that the Guru Blamed for the great drought on original Namek (caused by him drinking the entire water) and who were all killed for that.

edited 19th Mar '15 3:50:04 PM by Shlugo_the_great

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#12281: Mar 19th 2015 at 3:56:29 PM

Nobody had their proudest moments in the 80s.

Raven666 I'd totally hug you if that was something I did from Everywhere and Nowhere. I'm watching you. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
I'd totally hug you if that was something I did
#12282: Mar 19th 2015 at 3:56:30 PM

Ah ok. I never really got into Dragon Ball Abridged, didn't like Goku's voice. I think i've actually seen that video once before, it's alright I guess. Thanks for the quick responses.

edited 19th Mar '15 3:57:48 PM by Raven666

What started out as a pleasant afternoon of drugs and surgery has not gone as planned.
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#12283: Mar 19th 2015 at 4:01:56 PM

So... You guys say it like that is a particularly bad example of just how horrendous porn gets.

Not even close. Not even close.

And no, it's not just Japanese porn.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#12284: Mar 19th 2015 at 4:16:04 PM

Not porn really, just sexism.

And yea..that was, um...pretty fucking terrible. And I normally don't get offended by shit like that, but Jesus Christ.

As for the whole sexism thing...yeeeaaaa, its one of the more cynical things about the Shonen genre; most authors just simply do not know how to write females into relevant and engaging roles. So they're stuck as minor supporting characters, eye-candy, or serve as motivation for another.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#12285: Mar 19th 2015 at 4:23:50 PM

You know, the bright side about Revival of F excluding the Buu saga characters is that Team Four Star can probably abridge it.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#12286: Mar 19th 2015 at 4:24:42 PM

it'll probably be DBZ Kai abridged. tongue

DoctorDiabolical So pure. Since: Mar, 2010
So pure.
#12287: Mar 19th 2015 at 4:29:22 PM

@Lady Red: I will never, ever look at the Budokai announcer the same way again...

EDIT: in that sort of 'verse, what the hell is Android 8 wanted for?? x_X

edited 19th Mar '15 4:31:17 PM by DoctorDiabolical

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#12288: Mar 19th 2015 at 4:31:46 PM

[up][up][up]I think they're going by chronological order, so we're not going to get Revival of F until after Battle of Gods.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#12289: Mar 19th 2015 at 4:32:35 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]Is it that the authors don't know how to write female characters, or think that putting female characters in prominent or tradition-breaking roles will alienate young male audiences for whatever reason? I mean, you do kinda see the inverse with Shoujo, being marketed towards young girls, so it makes me wonder if the root cause is delivering to the low expectations you have of the audience.

edited 19th Mar '15 4:33:11 PM by Anomalocaris20

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Raven666 I'd totally hug you if that was something I did from Everywhere and Nowhere. I'm watching you. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
I'd totally hug you if that was something I did
#12290: Mar 19th 2015 at 4:41:22 PM

Just read the Lady Red thing, pretty tame compared to some of the shit you can accidentally stumble upon on the internet. From everyone's reaction I expected it to be much worse.

What started out as a pleasant afternoon of drugs and surgery has not gone as planned.
Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#12291: Mar 19th 2015 at 5:03:16 PM

Yeah, I don't see any malice in Lady Red. That's just Toriyama's sense of humor, where he subverts expectations. He does it all the time in Dragonball.

I dunno, that's like saying Daniel Tosh is sexist because he made rape jokes that one time and makes fun of women on Tosh 0.

edited 19th Mar '15 5:03:23 PM by Cruherrx

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#12292: Mar 19th 2015 at 5:09:41 PM

Well, people did call Daniel Tosh sexist for that. I don't really have an opinion on that, though.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#12293: Mar 19th 2015 at 5:26:21 PM

[up][up][up][up]Well I don't read Shoujo, but aren't most written by females?

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#12294: Mar 19th 2015 at 5:28:05 PM

@Black Yakuza:

They did do episode of Bardock abridge though.

Anyway, i mentioned it because they had said part of the reason they hadn't done Bo G abridge yet because of Buu and the others.

@Cruherrx:

People did call Tosh sexist because of that actually. And with good reason because he is rather sexist. So not the best example.

edited 19th Mar '15 5:32:22 PM by Cortez

SecondKaitenhammer Since: Jan, 2015
#12295: Mar 19th 2015 at 6:53:53 PM

All the modders have to do is to import jutsus

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#12296: Mar 19th 2015 at 7:02:46 PM

Yeah, I don't see any malice in Lady Red. That's just Toriyama's sense of humor, where he subverts expectations. He does it all the time in Dragonball.

I dunno, that's like saying Daniel Tosh is sexist because he made rape jokes that one time and makes fun of women on Tosh.0.

Sexism isn't necessarily about malice.

It frankly rarely is.

Same with racism, many forms of discrimination, really.

Note that's discrimination, not prejudice. One is the act, the other is the belief.

It's actually entirely possible to perform the act without the belief. Everybody else is doing it, so that must make it okay.

And Daniel Tosh makes fun of women using stereotypes about women. Kinda sexist.

And some of the things Toriyama does all the time in Dragon Ball aren't exactly great either.

Just read the Lady Red thing, pretty tame compared to some of the shit you can accidentally stumble upon on the internet. From everyone's reaction I expected it to be much worse.

That doesn't make it okay.

edited 19th Mar '15 7:05:30 PM by unnoun

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#12297: Mar 19th 2015 at 7:04:55 PM

I've always wondered why Babidi never showed up in Future Trunk's timeline.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#12298: Mar 19th 2015 at 7:05:56 PM

I think there was a video game plot about that.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#12299: Mar 19th 2015 at 7:07:51 PM

I guess killing random humans wouldn't give Buu enough power to hatch.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#12300: Mar 19th 2015 at 7:10:40 PM

It would just take longer, but He still could revive Buu.

unnoun: Yeah, Shin Budokai i think.

edited 19th Mar '15 7:13:04 PM by Cortez


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