Vegeta's surpassed Goku three times already - originally when they met, when he destroyed Android 19, and when he used Gohan's Hidden PowerLISTEN in Battle of Gods. I'm not counting his Majin power-up because a) that wasn't on his own merits and b) it doesn't even count, because Goku was sandbagging.
EDIT: And if that explanation isn't sufficient for how Vegeta could use Hidden Power, I have another one for you that he won the TM in the Bingo tournament.
edited 19th Mar '15 9:05:38 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Well, yeah, but genderbending generally happens the other way around.
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Which seems to imply men would make prettier women than actual women... And in a great deal of cases, they sort of do...
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariWell Goku was suffering from a Heart Virus at the time, so....I mean once he gets better, he quickly surpasses Vegeta by mastering Super Saiyan.
Vegeta's debut is pretty much the only time he was the undisputed strongest between the two. Afterward, Goku just found smarter ways to get stronger.
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.I'm not gonna get into this debate again, because I distinctly remember quitting and walking away last time. I'mma just leave some facts and everyone can decide what they wanna believe:
- The entire Saiyan population produced only 2 Super Elites: King Vegeta and Prince Vegeta, both having under 20,000
- The bulk of the Saiyan race were low-classes, like Bardock and Raditz. Nappa was a "mid-class" or Elite (of which there existed only 10) and he capped out at 4000.
- It's said that if Bardock trained and fought his whole life, he'd never climb out of the low-class, despite the fact that Saiyans are ranked based on power level.
- Goku, in 6 months on King Kai's planet, moved from having a power level under 500 to one of over 8000. King Kai's planet has the exact same gravitational pull as Planet Vegeta, yet Saiyans that fought (and thus used Zenkais) and trained their entire lives on Planet Vegeta were mostly Raditz-level.
- Vegeta states it plainly that Goku is a genius. Vegeta himself had surpassed his father in power when he was just a child.
Source some of this stuff:
Neither Goku nor Vegeta are cut from the same stock as regular Saiyans.
edited 19th Mar '15 10:14:43 AM by Cruherrx
"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."That Goku's interest in martial arts and training his battle power is unusual among his kind - and the universe as a whole, for that matter - is well-documented and a product of his upbringing on Earth. In addition to his personality and drive to train his body and explore new ways of fighting rather than just mindlessly throwing himself at enemies, by the time he fights Nappa, Goku has been trained by God, trained by a secret master of the afterlife, and undergone a supernatural Potential Unlock, none of which are applicable to Bardock.
Goku had advantages Bardock never had in both personality and opportunity, and it allowed him to surpass an Elite in battle power while still leaving him inferior to the Super-Elite Prince of All Saiyans. It took relentless grinding in 10x Planet Vegeta's gravity to pass Vegeta.
edited 19th Mar '15 10:55:10 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.~walks in. Reads posts~
Nothing new here.
~Leaves~
~Walks back in~
~Reads Enlong's post~
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~Slaps Enlong~
You Know What You Did. You know exactly what you did.
One Strip! One Strip!I blame Pew Die Pie for that.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariRob, your Uchiha is showing.
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So I heard Tien's Z-Soul from the DLC is immunity to Kamehamehas. Is that true? Because fuuuuuuuuck Parallel Quest 32.
edited 19th Mar '15 12:44:46 PM by TheAirman
PSN ID: FateSeraph | Switch friendcode: SW-0145-8835-0610 Congratulations! She/TheyI mean, this is a dragon ball game.
Immunity to all versions of the kamehameha would be immunity to most of the move list.
So we were talking about race "headcanon" stuff earlier.
I'm also looking forward to this.
edited 19th Mar '15 1:02:31 PM by unnoun

So long as there's at least two males, Yaoi Fangirls are gonna Yaoi Fangirl it up.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari