The thing is, he's assuming that it is "Full Power Freeza" when there's no real reason why the Supreme Kai would know how powerful Freeza really is since the only person to ever push him that far was Goku.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariYa know, it's funny, Goku has gone through so many transformations and power-ups, each getting crazier and crazier, that now that he's at his most powerful, his latest form is just a light aura change. No long rocker hair, no blonde or red hair, no blue/green/red eyes, no height changes, no caveman brows, no giant muscles, no slim body, no monkey fur, no anything.
It's like he transformed so much that he looped back into himself.
Sometimes when things get too ridiculous, you have to regress. It's the only way to continue.
Kind of like a heroic version of the Bishōnen Line.
And it's not really stolen from Gohan. Gohan's shtick was that he always had the power within him, that's why he didn't need to go Super Saiyan. With Goku, it's just the whole "he's gotten so powerful it doesn't even cause physical change anymore".
edited 15th Mar '15 12:03:27 AM by LOLypop1224
The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!![]()
Not really, Gohan's thing at least gave him a hairstyle change and was more of him having access to all of his hidden potential. Goku's thing is just an aura with no hair change whatsoever, and it's less him using all of his hidden potential at once, and more him having access to all the godly power he had as a Super Saiyan God in his base state. Really, saying they're the same is basically ignoring the differences.
edited 15th Mar '15 12:04:00 AM by Ssj3Gojira
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!Oh yeah, Ultimate Gohan has SSJ2 hair w/o the blondness.
Also, I looked at the latest Dragon Ball Heroes opening again, and noticed that not only does Goku use SJTSG, but so does Vegeta. I'm not sure if his card has the form, but he surely has it in the opening.
edited 15th Mar '15 12:12:31 AM by Rinsankajugin
One is being able to access the Super Saiyan power without being a Super Saiyan.
The other is being able to access the Super Saiyan God power with being a Super Saiyan God.
Yes, there's a minor hair difference in Gohan's case, but that really isn't enough of a difference for two things which shouldn't have anything in common.
Can you link the opening?
edited 15th Mar '15 12:17:30 AM by Saiga
No, I mean you can't conclude that is the new form or that Vegeta will have it. They've used that aura all over the place, it could be just meant to represent them normally.
Too little information to base that off.
Nah, the cheap animation is because Namco and Toei are both fucking cheap. Toei do not work hard.
edited 15th Mar '15 12:36:23 AM by Saiga
I hope they tone down the whole Super Saiyan God business in the new movie. While I loved Battle of Gods, I still can't wrap my head around Super Saiyan God - what it is, and how it's more powerful than, say, SSJ 3. My old headcanon, that "Beerus, as a god, can only be hurt by other gods", has apparently been proven wrong, so now I'm confused again.
The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Perhaps along with Ro F Gohan, Krillin, Roshi, and maybe Jaco? (I'd say Piccolo but he looks exactly the same)
I kinda hope Xenoverse gives Pan the ability to go Super Saiyan in that DLC.
It's only as bullshit as SS 3 and SS 4 Broly.
One of the very few things I liked about GT was Pan. I only liked her sometimes because goddammit GT, but.
And I liked the Shadow Dragon arc, actually. So I'm actually kinda glad that Omega Shenron has showed up in a lot of games. He's fun.
It's nice to have the dragon balls bite our characters in the ass. And also nice that there's so many references and call-backs to a bunch of the wishes from the series.
...The only thing I can say I liked about the Baby arc was that the Golden Oozaru and SS 4 stuff was kinda neat, and that it was nice to see Bulma and Vegeta taking over the world like you just know they've always been secretly planning to.
And I started rambling.
...Is the DLC actually going to add new story stuff? Because. On the one hand, that would risk admitting that GT actually happened, and, ew, no.
I suppose as an alternate timeline it's fine.
And I like how Xenoverse has given a lot of potential explanation for things.
Like, Episode of Bardock can make sense because of some other timeline where a wormhole opened and things.
edited 15th Mar '15 5:33:59 AM by unnoun
Btw the newest patch notes for Xenoverse:
- Added data for Dragon Ball GT Pack 1
- Fixed English dialog and subtitle inconsistencies
- Fixed issue where “Reversal” evaluation could not be earned in Quests
- Fixed issue where some materials could not be earned in Quests
- Fixed issue where player could not be revived from downed state
- Implemented online event functionality
Right. When Goku - who is weaker than Frieza - becomes a Super Saiyan, his power increases 50x. In that state, he is more powerful than Kaioshin, who is claimed to be 1,000x stronger than Frieza. That math is impossible, which supports Saiga's claim that the 1,000x is just a shoddy translation, as well as IANCE's idea that he's just comparing himself to First Form. However strong Kaioshin is, it must be less than 50x Frieza's full strength for him to still be outclassed by Super Saiyan Goku.
Y'know, Frieza was doing the "My ultimate form is a sleek and elegant design unlike the bestial and monstrous transformations previous," thing long before the Saiyans jumped on the bandwagon.
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What are you talking about, Super Saiyan Goku would be miles ahead of Frieza by the Cell Saga, especially with all the escalation that happened.
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!