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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#11826: Mar 14th 2015 at 3:48:39 PM

[up][up] Oh, god, it's like seeing Freeza in the shower. Wait a minute, Freeza's always naked! Nooo!

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11827: Mar 14th 2015 at 4:13:07 PM

Getting Super Saiyan was easy.

But getting Super Vegeta is just.

Ugh.

I've gotten down the part of how to get Vegeta to go Super Saiyan for the Ultimate Victory thing. But getting the actual skill itself to show up is so annoying.

...Protecting Hercule from Perfect Cell isn't the easiest thing in the world either.

EDIT: Oh my god, powered up Hercule is the best thing.

It's beautiful.

edited 14th Mar '15 4:15:10 PM by unnoun

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11828: Mar 14th 2015 at 5:03:06 PM

Kaioshin being 1,000 times stronger is not in the original. He is stronger than Piccolo, and stronger than the minions Vegeta and Goku killed. His fear stems from the Saiyans being too casual, because if they get injured not taking things seriously it'll help revive Majin Boo.

He's weaker than all the adult Super Saiyans though.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11829: Mar 14th 2015 at 5:45:21 PM

He's definitely stronger than Freeza, though. Actually, being one thousand times stronger than first form Freeza probably isn't that big of a stretch. I mean, he's stronger than Piccolo, who has to be quite a bit above Androids 17 and 18 (since he has trained to go up from the time he fought 17 equally), who, in turn, make Freeza look like a joke.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#11830: Mar 14th 2015 at 5:48:46 PM

It sounds like a huge stretch to me. I'm surprised people actually took that line literally, where ever it comes from. It's like you expect him to know exactly how strong Frieza is, compares it to himself, and it rounds out perfectly? Hyperbole is a thing that people do to get points across.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11831: Mar 14th 2015 at 5:53:02 PM

He's kind of a god.

Of other gods.

That are themselves the gods of other gods.

Kami and King Kai have typically known their shit. Not necessarily always, but.

edited 14th Mar '15 5:59:31 PM by unnoun

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#11832: Mar 14th 2015 at 5:59:38 PM

And he was completely blown away by the saiyan's power. Being a God stopped really mattering much after Goku surpassed King Kai.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11833: Mar 14th 2015 at 6:07:37 PM

Yes, he was blown away by the Super Saiyans. So? Everyone else is, too.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11834: Mar 14th 2015 at 6:09:16 PM

I wasn't talking about the power thing.

I meant the thing about knowing things and doing math.

Gods are still typically good at that.

Of course, Beerus still has the power thing, but.

I mean, the Kais are the gods of creation to his destruction.

Mind, I always thought King Kai not being able to do the Kaioken was sorta asinine.

edited 14th Mar '15 6:11:35 PM by unnoun

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#11835: Mar 14th 2015 at 6:14:03 PM

[up]I know what you meant and I know what [up][up] meant. The point is for all the talk of power escalation, it never got to the point were I could every say "Yeah, this is believably a thousand times stronger than Frieza." Beers and a Super Saiyan God I could believe that, but not for the Supreme Kai, especially when it has no based on anything other than a line he apparently didn't actually say.

edited 14th Mar '15 6:14:21 PM by LSBK

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11836: Mar 14th 2015 at 6:26:19 PM

So.

Thinking about it, I can't remember any of the characters that can sense energy mentioning what the power levels of the Kais, Supreme or otherwise are like.

I mean, the fact that Supreme Kai has to tell Piccolo whatever he says instead of having him sense it.

So do the Kais have Godly Ki but at a lower level?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11837: Mar 14th 2015 at 7:05:28 PM

Goku was able to locate Kaio's ki to use teleport to him. The same for Kibitoshin and Old Kaioshin.

Kaioshin doesn't tell Piccolo how strong he is, but Piccolo is able to tell for himself.

1,000 times stronger than Freeza's full power would be a stretch, but 1,000 times stronger than his first form would just make him 530,000,000 which is perfectly plausible when you consider the Cell arc escalation. I think Piccolo was stronger than that, and Kaioshin is stronger than Piccolo. Which is what IANCE was saying, LSBK.

edited 14th Mar '15 7:06:09 PM by Saiga

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#11838: Mar 14th 2015 at 7:09:39 PM

Just learned that Goku's new form (the unlock potential-esque one) is called "Saiyan that surpassed God."

Oddly long name for a simple form.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#11840: Mar 14th 2015 at 7:15:40 PM

So wait, is this form supposed to be stronger than Super Saiyan God?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11841: Mar 14th 2015 at 7:17:31 PM

In a sense, it is superior. For the simple fact that it's not gonna crap out at the worst time imaginable and it doesn't require six people to power you up.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11842: Mar 14th 2015 at 7:19:46 PM

It's probably not stronger, but it means Goku is beyond God now since he doesn't need the form, he absorbed enough of its power that he can train and grow stronger than he originally was as a Super Saiyan God.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#11843: Mar 14th 2015 at 7:24:05 PM

Is there someplace where all the info we got on the movie compiled so I could read it all?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11844: Mar 14th 2015 at 7:26:42 PM

Not really. You can search for Kanzenshuu news announcements for stuff relating to the movie, but there's nothing in a single post that I've seen.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#11845: Mar 14th 2015 at 8:19:14 PM

I kinda wonder why Tights lives apart from the rest of the Brief family. They seem to get along.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#11846: Mar 14th 2015 at 9:22:47 PM

It would have been an impossible stretch for Kaioshin to be 1,000x Frieza's strength. As Saiga noted, the adult Super Saiyans are stronger than him.

  • Kaioshin > 1,000 Friezas
  • Goku < Frieza
  • 50 Gokus > Kaioshin

Think about that math for a second.

edited 14th Mar '15 9:23:10 PM by TobiasDrake

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#11847: Mar 14th 2015 at 9:32:07 PM

50 Post-Cell-Saga Gokus.

My various fanfics.
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#11848: Mar 14th 2015 at 9:44:58 PM

I still say 1000 x first form Freeza is actually kind of a realistic figure. I mean, he'd still be weaker than Cell at that level, if I'm not mistaken.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
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#11849: Mar 14th 2015 at 9:49:49 PM

[up][up] Which are, individually, weaker than Frieza. 50 Weaker Thans cannot calculate to equal a total of 1,000 Greater Thans.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11850: Mar 14th 2015 at 9:55:06 PM

Well, if you just wanted to go off the manga that wouldn't be a problem.


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